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mrnasty Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:21 Posts: 2280 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Rosebud VIC, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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bit off topic but ace I just noticed ur signiture, you have a 5" exhaust tip? thats massive!?
and the shift kits will give u no more power, its just that when it shifts (i assume) the driving wheel/wheels get a bit of a kick, they spin a little and in the wet they will lose traction from this = sideways |
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neds Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Age:26 Posts: 48 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| To try and say it in one sentence: The shift kit just reduces the time the gearbox spends between gears. |
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Picture driving a manual in the wet. Now picture throwing it through gears with little/no clutch and power down the whole time.
= sideways. |
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Lukieman Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:27 Posts: 218 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane - Clayfield QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hows that make the car go sideways in the wet though, That sounds like an interesting prospect and probly what would make me put one in
If its got enough power to kick out in the wet it should have more power on the road in the dry. |
In my EA (4 spd) without a shift kit, changing from 1st to 2nd in the wet will sometimes make it loose traction at the back and it starts goin off to the side, this is quite strange and I have Potenzas, and I get the occasional whip lash between 1-2 gear changes.
Although I don't know why you would want your Falcon to loose traction in the wet, I crashed my last Giha which was an awesome car all because the wheels were hard and it had grip problems. Loosing traction in the wet scares the s**t outta me now... I avoid it as much as possible. |
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0oBelialo0 Fordmods Newbie
Posts: 17 Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Canberra ACT, Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got around to doing this properly today. I did a hack job with 5W resistors a while back, using 18ohm.
Might just be my car, but I dunno how you guys can stand having the change that hard. I drove around the block and had a snore neck - the 1/2 shift was very rough!
This time round I went for 22Ohm and it's much better. The 1/2 is still a tiny bit harder than I'd like, but not bad enough that I won't use it The box is tucked away nicely as are the leads. All I need to do now is find my 10mm drill bit so I can install the switch properly.
So anyway, thanks for the great info in this thread - it meant I managed to build and install it first go (both times) without any issues.
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Danielhm1 Fordmods Newbie
Age:22 Posts: 19 Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Location: Swan Reach VIC, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have a any pics of the project box? whats a good box to use. im a tad scared of cutting the wires from my ecu, that control the gear changes :S
ANy help would be greatly appreciated |
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lol, i used a cigarette packet - so anything around that size would be fine.
Dont stress about the ECU wires. Make sure you've got the right wire - check 5 times and cut once, lol. |
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cougar30 Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:42 Posts: 202 Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Location: Redcliffe, Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Danielhm1 wrote: | Does anyone have a any pics of the project box? whats a good box to use. im a tad scared of cutting the wires from my ecu, that control the gear changes :S
ANy help would be greatly appreciated |
i used i small project box from JCAR ...about $1.50 ...
all see though plactic with a screw down lid
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Slick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:40 Posts: 5281 Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Who knows which one is 71 & 81 for 2001 AUll falcon?  |
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Bangers Fordmods Parts Gopher
Age:24 Posts: 57 Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cougar30 wrote: | | neds wrote: | | Just had a look at the diagram for El's. It looks exactly the same, except pin 71 is actually pin 57, and pin 81 is pin 38. Other than that it should use the same resistors and the same setup. |
All done .... shift kit in and running great .... this is easy and cheep to do
And it make a big difference  |
What exactly is the difference it makes? |
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cougar30 Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:42 Posts: 202 Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Location: Redcliffe, Brisbane QLD, Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Bangers wrote: |
What exactly is the difference it makes? |
It changes the gears in the auto a lot quicker and harder then normal ...
with a switch you can have it on (quick change) or off (normal)...
in the wet you need to turn it off or you get wheel spin in first second and third gears |
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parker Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Age:28 Posts: 20 Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Location: Junee NSW, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm planning to replace the 5ohm with a potentiometer to do this in my AU, but I'm having trouble finding the right part on jaycar's site (there's no jaycar close by to actually visit).
Can anyone point me in the right direction here at all please? |
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TerroristGHIA Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:37 Posts: 2485 Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Australia NSW, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ok Guys, In relation to the 3 pronged switch, I would suggest you visit a speed shop and ask for the arming switch for a NOS Kit. This switch has 3 prongs, a built in LED to tell you it is on, and i modified my dash between the reardemist switch and the Power Antenna switch. The switch fits perfectly in the middle of these 2 and looks factory. It is a rocker type switch. Was going to mount it in the same place as one of my power window switches, but decided that i wanted to keep contol of all 4 power windows from the front
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Slick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:40 Posts: 5281 Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| who's got a diagram for adjustable one, dial type resistor? |
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Big Kev Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:22 Posts: 4817 Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Location: Perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| chr!s wrote: | well i put it in yesterday and can i say it shifts awesome now... thanks for the info it is the kind of stuff that ford users need...
which one of the two resistors controls the harder shift?
if anything i would like it to shift just a little softer than it does which would be a good balance...
is this really gonna be better for my auto etc? it kind of makes a bit of a squeal real quick when it goes into gear which is a bit scary... |
I get this same thing from i think the 2-3 gear change....just a quick squeal/squeak ??? any ideas anyone...only happens if you are giving it abit |
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hobbsy Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Age:27 Posts: 34 Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: adelaide SA, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| i just finished making my shift kit i cant wait to put it in tomorrow arvo. id post pics but i got no idea how.[/img] |
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Timmeh Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Isnt there a website where they sell these kits with either on/off 1 stage, 2 stage or potentiometer ones with a dial.
I cant remember the website. Anyone?  |
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Timmeh Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| parker wrote: | | Yeah, <a href="http://www.shiftkits.com.au/ShiftKitsFord.aspx">there is</a> - for quite a price! |
You'd get a bit better professional finish with it though. I'm crap at electronics.
BTW thanks for the link. |
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parker Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Age:28 Posts: 20 Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Location: Junee NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Timmeh wrote: |
I'm crap at electronics.
BTW thanks for the link. |
Fair enough, and that's exactly why those guys exist. Not everyone can do it themselves, or can be bothered to. |
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