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fordfreak ef
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| stockstandard wrote: | Yes the AU sump can be modified by cutting and welding a new front section as shown in this picture
This may be a better option if your into keeping thing legal as I would imagine there might be issues with cutting the k-frame (require engineering?) |
wow! seams to me like a revelation that its possible to weld up the front of the sump of the au to make it fit in with the standard k-frame of the EF.. why didnt i think of that!!??  BRILLIANT!! can see the au to ea,eb,ed,ef, and el gaining popularity..  |
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stockstandard
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| willygrice wrote: | | nice, whose is the jetxr, more pics please and a contact email addy??? |
JetXR is a very popular car - if you do a search of the forums youll find heaps of info.
I think its for sale at the moment as well
(these pics from effalcons website)
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Jim Beam
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When exactly did JETXR stick the BA engine in?
And that has to be the worst front bar i have ever seen on a Falcon |
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stockstandard
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Found these AU engines on ebay
The modified sump lets it drop into ef/el's without k-frame mods.
Just need someone to do the same with BA engines now... |
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Slick
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work Stock.
sticky, sticky |
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kraddy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well done stockstandard, You certainly know your s**t! Once again you have impressed us all!
I vote this a sticky too! |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| nice work, i can give you some info on sohc in a x-series and pics, it runs a standard 2b webber and uses a ex dissy also runs a 4 sp single rail home addapted to a t5 bell housing. if your interested. |
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Fiox
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi Stockstandard,
I am in the moddle of converting my ef with an AU motor. Can you get me better pics or info regarding the K-Frame mod and the sumo mod? |
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stockstandard
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| fastleno wrote: | | nice work, i can give you some info on sohc in a x-series and pics, it runs a standard 2b webber and uses a ex dissy also runs a 4 sp single rail home addapted to a t5 bell housing. if your interested. |
For sure, if you can post or PM me some links ill update the thread. Id be very interested to see the single rail mod!
| Fiox wrote: | Hi Stockstandard,
I am in the moddle of converting my ef with an AU motor. Can you get me better pics or info regarding the K-Frame mod and the sumo mod? |
Sorry i dont have any better pics. From memory the k-frame was done by cutting slots into the k-frame on either side of the sump. The middle was then pressed in (with a hammer) and then some sheet metal was welded in to fix up the gaps. |
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stockstandard
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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4.0 to x-series conversion info added thanks to fastleno
guess i should add info about the x-series 6's then as well at some point.. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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just a note the AU and BA sumps are the SAME.
p.s. why isnt this a sticky yet? |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| also i have seen on ebay that a mob in brisbane is selling au engines with modified sumps to fit e-series cars. I believe they ship all around Australia. |
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Fiox
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I know about that QLD mob. Thats where I got my engine from. However, at the time I got my engine it was too expensive to get it modified already. It still would be cheaper if I modified the sump here.
I think that modifying the K-Frame is still a better option for me in regards to cost.
The only reason I bought the engine is I have a blown head gasket, and was to do a rebuild on my engine as it is just over 710K kms. In terms of cost, if I simply rebuilt the engine ( new rings and bearings, seals etc) plus do the head and new chain, head bolts, guides, there is no way I could compare with a good low Km second engine.
The K-Frame is a minor problem for me. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i thought that you could swap an ef/l sump onto an au motor and not have to do any modifications to it or the k frame? no? |
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SlickNCGhia
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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just a quick qn. im looking to put an AU into my Nc fairlane (3.9 mpfi 4spd auto). do i need to get the AU loom? and do i need to get an AU ecu? or will my ecu and loom work
ben
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Now sticky. Excellent work!
I think this needs to be made into a technical document  |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| IMHO you should not got banging around the K-frame or you may screw up all the front end alignments. much better to tig-weld the sump and leave the body standard. This of course may lead to distortion of the sumps and further oil leaks. |
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SlickNCGhia
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| SlickNCGhia wrote: | just a quick qn. im looking to put an AU into my Nc fairlane (3.9 mpfi 4spd auto). do i need to get the AU loom? and do i need to get an AU ecu? or will my ecu and loom work
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anyone???? its probably a stupid question but i need to work it out b4 i but an engine
cheers ben |
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voxace
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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No you won't need the loom or ecu.
But you might need to convert to smartlock if you want to run the BBM properly, or alternative just keep the log style manifold from your 3.9L. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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hi
you can use your manifold from the 3.9..
i have just put a au engine into my ea..
and i used the ea manifold ....
if you want to use the au manifold and have it working properly you can use the el ecu but you will have to overcome smartlock..
or you can use a rpm switch to activate the au manifold runners..
but ive heard that the fuel maps are different and it wont work properly. here is a link and pics to what i did to mine ..
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36990
theres more details on page 2 of the thread... |
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