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slycruza Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:24 Posts: 281 Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: perth WA, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: manual conversion |
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hi
ive just found out its goin to be a lot of trouble to install my autronic sm2 computer into my el fairmont ghia 6 cylinder! they recomened me to get a manual converion done to make it easer.. also i know i would need the manual computer but with the autronic computer can i use that to run everything?? will i loose any features from my car??please help out cause everywhere i ring they say not sure do some reseach and i dont know where to turn!
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well im pretty sure after market ecu's need to 'co exist' with EEC so functions like smartlock and the dashboard work.
Therefore i dont see why the autronic could not be installed in this manner, and EEC would still be able to control the gearbox (i assume this is the problem they are talking about).
I would think the autronic will not be able to run smartlock, the dashboard or the gearbox. But simply have the autronic wired into the fuel and ignition system and should be OK.
Automatic ECUs can be tricked to run an engine with a manual box if need be in the short term. |
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uglybob Technical Contributor
Age:24 Posts: 5814 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Leederville WA, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| neo_nick has done the conversion of his NL fairmont (fairlane?) hasn't he? if so, might be worth dropping him a PM or something to see what issues (if any) that he had... |
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Nicko Moderator
Posts: 11060 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: SE Melb VIC, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Fairlane fraser!
the chicks like it long!
lol
see the problem you face is that the auto is controlled by the factory ecu (damn ford) so it recieves signals from teh auto to control it and confirm status
there is a way around it of course and its not too difficult
you have to wire up your reverse switch and put a resistor on the trans temp line and thats about it |
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uglybob Technical Contributor
Age:24 Posts: 5814 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Leederville WA, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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lol sorry nick! after i'd posted it, i remembered it was a fairmont you had! hehe - but i guess its the compensation factor you're going for on that one?  |
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altedxr6

Age:30 Posts: 1435 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD QLD, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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I've just done a manual conversion on Bozz's EL fairmont, Still using the auto ECU ..
Put a few resitors on the ECU, and just had to drop the idle speed down a bit ..
Apart from that, Its like it never had an auto in it at all ..
If you want the resistor ohms, and where they where, Let me know  |
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Jaysen
Age:26 Posts: 1032 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| Do the thermos run all the time or are they now operating normally as they should with the resistors added? |
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altedxr6

Age:30 Posts: 1435 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Yup ... After you put the resistors in the thermo's stop running ..
if you wanna know the pins, on the ECU wiring, I'll find out |
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altedxr6

Age:30 Posts: 1435 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD QLD, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, Not stop running, Stop running all the time, They work again like normal after you've added the resistor mod . |
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4.9 EF Futura Moderator
Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| au2low wrote: | | Sorry, Not stop running, Stop running all the time, They work again like normal after you've added the resistor mod . |
1.2k ohm for the trans temp link from what i remember. And...7k ohm for the inhibitor siwtch? |
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altedxr6

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup .. thats what Bozz & myself did .. |
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Jaysen
Age:26 Posts: 1032 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok I did this mod today and the car is running perfect. Without the resistors in place the idle is higher than normal and acts silly also. Ive asked to if I can put up a doco on it as I took some photos of what I did which will make things a lot easier |
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altedxr6

Age:30 Posts: 1435 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD QLD, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaysen wrote: | | Ok I did this mod today and the car is running perfect. Without the resistors in place the idle is higher than normal and acts silly also. Ive asked to if I can put up a doco on it as I took some photos of what I did which will make things a lot easier |
what car did you do it in? . |
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