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excopau
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 Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: TRANSPLANTING BA XR TURBO ENGINE INTO AU SERIES 1 6 CYLINDER |
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I can get a hold of a ba xr turbo engine conversion form a wrecker with harness, engine, gearbox,ecu and all fittings and accessories, but I have been told even getting all the harness and computer that I would need to use an aftermaket computer on the engine because I cant mate the au bcm to the ba one and that the ba computer uses a link system where it talks to seven other little modules in the harness that control other stuff like a/c and navigation and so on which aren't needed or used on a au, is this true, or is there another way around it? I rang nizpro and they told me it wouldn't work on the standard ecu and would cost alot to get to work on standard ecu, they surggested to use motec computer but said it would cost up too $6000 to get it too work on the egine which I nearly died when I heard the price.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| This is fairly consistent with everything i've heard about transplanting a BA engine into an EEC-V vehicle. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Too much effort/money.. Better off turboing your current engine or find the turbo off an XR6T instead. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone says too much effort/money, where I agree I also think that you should do it. Who else has an AU with a XR6T engine in it? that and you would probably get an aftermarket ECU anyway, to do mods to the engine. That, and the BA engines are very good ones, nice power outputs, and I say worth it, if you got the cash and the paitience, go for it, it would definately set an example in the FORD community.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| justfordima wrote: | | Everyone says too much effort/money, where I agree I also think that you should do it. Who else has an AU with a XR6T engine in it? that and you would probably get an aftermarket ECU anyway, to do mods to the engine. That, and the BA engines are very good ones, nice power outputs, and I say worth it, if you got the cash and the paitience, go for it, it would definately set an example in the FORD community. |
There's no point in transplanting the BA turbo engine if for cheaper the same gains can be reached by a custom turbo job on the current engine... |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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you are not taking bragging rights into considerations, and the respect.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Well the BA motor doesnt fit under an EF bonnet we know this, so will it fit under an AU bonnet ? , I think the rocker sticking out of the bonnet looks plain stupid. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| You get more respect when you blow someones doors off for half the money. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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All I can say is TWINCAM HEAD! Thats a good enough reason for me  |
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Dellboy999
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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winning is winning in the end , doesnt matter about cost, you loose you are a looser  , as long as the power figures and 1/4 miles times back up the dollars, only just beating corolla's after spending $6,000 aint cool ... lol |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Will it fit in ea eb? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I reckon the higher bonnet of the EA-ED will fit it nicely. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Well thats good to hear, I was told you can buy a short motor from ford for around $2500... anyone know if this is crap or not? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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why not use your AU computer to run the auto trans and your smart sheild ect.
you could use a AU throttle body so you can use a cable.
aftermarket computer autronics ect.you dont need a motec system for this application in a street car.
easy
and what a conversion!!
we have sold 2 BA xr6t conversions
1 for JET XR
1 went to QLD for a CORTINA 
and we do have one at the moment
$7500 complete or $6000 without auto |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| mmithought the au throttle body wont fit the ba motor as it fly by wire and sits lower on the manifold/rocker cover than the au |
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excopau
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: ba engine |
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| Nizpro told me they had alot of problems with the signals being weak from the cam sensor to vary the cams, thats why it cost so much for computer system.Im pretty sure it fits in an au, someone has put one into a el xr already. Anyone know if I you have to change the au cross member to an ba one to fit the engine? |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:39 am Post subject: |
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you wont need to change the crossmember they are the same.
you could leave the cam sensors disconected and not run the vct
buy some cams to suit and can still develop plenty of power without the complications.
i beleive thats what most people are doing. and i have heard of RW figures of over 400kw with vct. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| alternatively you could just get ITS Performance to do a custom engine for you, or get a turbo setup like pyroay, instead of bothering with al lthe hassles from the ba engine, fair enough you'll be different but for the money its definately not worth it |
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