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Bassfreak55
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For all you high performance engine builders out there..!!
Whats the best combination of parts i would go for to extract as much power possible out of an el xr8 302 engine for around $5000?
Only for the top end of the engine though, as the bottom end will get rebuilt & stroked later down the track.. |
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kermey
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fluffy dice, only if u can afford it with you 5g bugget  |
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drazull
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HAHAHA
You madman.
I dont know too much abour V8's but www.trickflow.com might be a good place to start. |
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Bassfreak55
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| drazull wrote: | HAHAHA
You madman.
I dont know too much abour V8's but www.trickflow.com might be a good place to start. |
Yep, the Trickflow kit is a deffinate plan 'b'. Ie, if i cant find anything better, then i will buy that kit without a doubt. I just wana know if theres an alternative thats worth going with with instead of the TF kit, ie, if i can obtain a little for power etc.. |
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| You can always do better.. AFR heads will be better, you could always get a lumpier cam but that would mean notching pistons probably. Could also get Trickflow R series intake, it's endless for the windsors. You have to set your budget and your goal, then go from there. |
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XR8Chic
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Best part under $5k to get the most power
Nitrous kit.
Use the rest of the money for the repairs. |
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4.9 EF Futura
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| XR8Chic wrote: | Best part under $5k to get the most power
Nitrous kit.
Use the rest of the money for the repairs. |
Lol, yeah well put...
Spose you could hunt down some 2nd hand GT40 heads from AU... 2nd hand GT40 upper/lower.. but even then i'm not sure if $5k leaves much change. Spose std MAF and TB wouldnt be much good on that combo either...
You able to do this stuff yourself? |
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Replace them heads and good inlet AFR or the TFS combination..Then maf etc latter...Cam when heads are off 2030 1.6 rockers or 2031 with 1.72 rockers...Should be under $5k just...Get maf Pro-m latter from Mr Landau ...
Heads and inlet is the BIGGEST bottle neck... |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Do the GT40 heads become available often on the 2nd hand market?
What sort of price do they fetch? |
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One Drone
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| Around about a grand or a little bit over.. Call Herrod Motorsport as they usually have some left over from AUs they have had converted to AFR. |
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Would they be considered a worthwhile investment at that sort of price (ie, bang for buck).
What sort of power celing do they have after some generous port work? Can they reach over 200rwkw with cam,rollers and exh ? |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Kell was reaching near that power figure with just E7s (albeit ported).. GT40Ps are said to be the best bang for buck around here. Decent cam, intake, rollers etc and you'll be laughing. |
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Bassfreak55
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| 4.9 EF Futura wrote: | | You able to do this stuff yourself? |
LOL! If i wasnt gonna do this stuff myself, and was gonna pay someone else to fit it, id get jack s**t for 5 grand! ..So yes, ill be doing it myself for sure.
| EBXR8380 wrote: | Replace them heads and good inlet AFR or the TFS combination..Then maf etc latter...Cam when heads are off 2030 1.6 rockers or 2031 with 1.72 rockers...Should be under $5k just...Get maf Pro-m latter from Mr Landau ...
Heads and inlet is the BIGGEST bottle neck... |
Thanks for ur help Graeme, much appreciated. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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You can get better gear than the Trickflow kit but you would soon blow your $5k budget.
Pro-topline 180's or AFR 185's will cost you $3000, the manifold another $1000, then you need headstuds, rollerrockers, pushrods, cam, timing chain set and gaskets to finish it. The Trickflow kit comes with all that and alloy rocker covers. I seriously don't think you will beat the power it makes for the price.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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i cant work out why i still have that AU 5ltr to suit rebuild sitting in my workshop has come out of a AU series 3 has gt40 heads and roller lifters ect
only $1000
might have to put the price up to 2 grand!! |
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| Would be nice to drop a 220 into the AU1 but just can't afford that. A 220 into something like an ED now that could fly. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Get a set of aftermarket alloy heads, and a trickflow inlet manifold, larger throttle body and a trickflow cam |
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TerroristGHIA
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I gotta agree well XR8CHIC, go NOS. I have just installed a dry system on my 5.0, no probs whatsoever. Did the install myself, transformed the car. Total cost 1500 fitted by me.
NOS 1095
Fil 120
Fuel Pump 210
extra jets to tune it 50
1 case of crownies 43
61/2 hrs total
GOOD LUCK anmd seriously consider this
PS( If you are in Sydney i will install the lot for the same dollars) |
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