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Walker Technical Contributor
Age:37 Posts: 8581 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| bazz wrote: | | so so u cant do a grate distance just on gas and u have to have a full tank of fuel wow thats crap i still get better econemy just using petrol you all use gas and fuel so u people will be spending more money at the pump |
You've obviously never had a car on LPG, as i've said before, been running it for almost 17 years and couldn't be without it.
As i stated, i got 515 k's to 68 litres, that was half city and half highway, i wouldn't even call the trip highway as it was very hilly.... I honestly believe i can hit 600 k's for that amount, not bad out of a big car with a 5.0. I got almost 600 k's out of my EF 4.0 on a trip with LPG, i was pushing to get that from a tank of petrol.
I'll report back in 3 weeks after i do my trip!
As i've said before, for those non believers, it's your money you're throwing away, not mine..... If i had that attitude then i wouldn't have much beer money at the end of the week! |
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ToranaGuy Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 411 Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Location: Werribee VIC, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Walker wrote: | | bazz wrote: | | so so u cant do a grate distance just on gas and u have to have a full tank of fuel wow thats crap i still get better econemy just using petrol you all use gas and fuel so u people will be spending more money at the pump |
As i've said before, for those non believers, it's your money you're throwing away, not mine..... If i had that attitude then i wouldn't have much beer money at the end of the week! |
Very well said about the beer money.
Here's a very good comparison, I own 2 very differant extreme's of cars, the EB in my avitar, and a Suzuki Mighty Boy Ute, Kei class car, half the size of an Excel! Ford primarily run on LPG, with just a bit of petrol to start, Mighty Boy is ULP only. Mighty boy is getting about 8 or 9/100 atm, i need to rebuild the carby, even at it's best it will get about 7/100. With the economy of my Ford i'm sure i've posted it earlier in the thread, atm about 14 -15/100, and the price differance of lpg almost 2/3 cheaper than petrol, have a long hard guess which car is more economical on my WALLET, where it damn well counts?
YEP, it's the guzzling Ford. Specs to compare
EB II Fairmont Ghia, '93
4lt I6, Duel fuel, 5spd manual ( now )
More than 1500kg gross weight i believe
Suzuki Mighty Boy Ute, '86
800cc, Yes that's right, i put in a " big block alto motor " I3, 4spd manual
About 550kg gross weight
There was an economy review i think it was the RACV did not too long ago in one of their mags, a Territory on LPG was cheaper than a small Hyundai on ULP and a lot cheaper than a Golf on Diesel, even with their amazing economy by the litre.
You let your car do the drinking for you, i'll do the drinking for my car, with the savings in MY WALLET.
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bazz Fordmods Tyre Shredder
Age:44 Posts: 353 Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Location: tweed heads NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| no ive never had a car on gas and i never will because my car gets great econemy on fuel and i dont need to go through all that crap that i read on here about the problems that people have using gas. so at the end of the day i can afford not a beer but a slab |
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Walker Technical Contributor
Age:37 Posts: 8581 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, you'd be able to buy 3 slabs.
Some people will never learn, they hear a cpl of bad things and it turns them off it. In 17 years i've never had any major dramas, it's actually more reliable than petrol with injectors clogging and fuel pumps s**t themselves.
My old man has got a ZL on LPG, economy is s**t and always has been compared to EA upwards.
He also has an NC which is very economical on petrol, and because of that he wont put it on LPG, he thinks it'll be like his ZL... I'm still trying to convince him otherwise because he'll save s**t.
Don't knock anything unless you've tried it, it's always people who tell you not to do or try certain things and yet they haven't even done it themselves. |
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benno's ed Fordmods - Smokin em up
Age:34 Posts: 212 Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Location: WAGGA WAGGA NSW, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| bazz wrote: | | no ive never had a car on gas and i never will because my car gets great econemy on fuel and i dont need to go through all that crap that i read on here about the problems that people have using gas. so at the end of the day i can afford not a beer but a slab | Don't worry about converting your car mate. there isn't enough tanks to go around at the moment so I'll just take yours.  |
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rushed Fordmods Junkie
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| bazz wrote: | | no ive never had a car on gas and i never will because my car gets great econemy on fuel and i dont need to go through all that crap that i read on here about the problems that people have using gas. |
im one of those having major issues with my gas setup, there is a reason i havnt just ripped the system out, it saves a s**t of cash, and helps my friday nights out rather considerably.
my car on petrol alone, costs HEAPS (i mean HEAPS) to run, even though i do 90% highway, you must own a gas car before you can have a go at them as it is a huge saving. |
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madmax Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:44 Posts: 3739 Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: Skye VIC, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Walker wrote: | LOL, you'd be able to buy 3 slabs.
Some people will never learn, they hear a cpl of bad things and it turns them off it. In 17 years i've never had any major dramas, it's actually more reliable than petrol with injectors clogging and fuel pumps s**t themselves.
My old man has got a ZL on LPG, economy is s**t and always has been compared to EA upwards.
He also has an NC which is very economical on petrol, and because of that he wont put it on LPG, he thinks it'll be like his ZL... I'm still trying to convince him otherwise because he'll save s**t.
Don't knock anything unless you've tried it, it's always people who tell you not to do or try certain things and yet they haven't even done it themselves. |
I've had 2 duel fuel cars in past years that were nothing but trouble. One was a V8 XC the other was a series 2 EA. Why would I be tempted to go for another? That's why I have a dedicated gas BA. |
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fairmont4me Fordmods Oompa Loompa
Age:19 Posts: 47 Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Back of Wanneroo WA, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah gas is awesome, and really a incredible simple setup really. Im happy with mine, got extractors sitting hear to go on now aswell |
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ToranaGuy Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
Age:25 Posts: 411 Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Location: Werribee VIC, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| benno's ed wrote: | | bazz wrote: | | no ive never had a car on gas and i never will because my car gets great econemy on fuel and i dont need to go through all that crap that i read on here about the problems that people have using gas. so at the end of the day i can afford not a beer but a slab | Don't worry about converting your car mate. there isn't enough tanks to go around at the moment so I'll just take yours.  |
I f**k love that post!
Ah well, i'll drink to those too silly to see the truth about a well setup gas system, and someone else such as you benno can take their tank!
People do remember petrol systems can cause just as many problems don't they? OH wait, they can't, that's why they think the way they do about LPG. Too bad, i've got dibs on a tank for my mighty boy, if i can get one small enough. ROFL.
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Walker Technical Contributor
Age:37 Posts: 8581 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| LOL there are plenty of tanks now, there was a huge back log towards the end of last year though. |
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AU99 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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comparison
my car duel fuel 99 AU 27,000 kays clocked up in 7 months..
wifes car petrol 98 AU 7,000 kays last 18 months
why? hers cost too much to bloody run! |
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Walker Technical Contributor
Age:37 Posts: 8581 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i only bothered to measure the first tank, i ended up doing 560 k's to 66 litres, that's with the car loaded with s**t and sitting on 115 to 120 k's the whole way.
I set the mixtures right though, not lean and not rich, i definately could have pulled more out but i don't like a lean mix with LPG.
I ended up doing 4350 k's in the 12 days i was away, the car didn't miss a beat except on petrol, the injectors are starting to f**k up but still runs ok. |
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