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AUXR8 2
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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: CMS stage 3 cams |
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Again our stage 3 cam has had the same amount of testing as the stage 2. With more torque across the range it comes alive from aprox 2600rpm untill redline (depending how its dailed).
The CMS 3 has a slight lope at idle & still is ECU freindly, this cam must have exhaust, inlet & valve spring mods carried out. SOUND GREAT AT IDLE.
Expected gains from a stock i6 is between 15-20rwkw (more with manuals)
They are a regrinde cam @ $385.00 with shims & a vernier gear (on a exchange basis)
To purchase the cam on its own is $205.00 (exchange)
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| How much with out the Vernier gear? |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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i am running this cam in my el xr6 at the moment.
i ran a 14.6 at the creek last week.
rest of the car is same setup as you molloy (head exhaust, intake)
will make your car very fun to drive! |
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| what sort of power and torque increases are we talking about with a stage 3 head and cam package also do you do bottom end upgrades |
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AUXR8 2
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: CMS STG 3 |
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We do everything to 4....6....8 cylinder Fords, from making your car, stop... handle....tunning & building reliable street & track engines, to answer your first question it will be best for you to ring me so I can find out more of what you have got then give you a realistic figure, as some of the guy's here have.
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| There was a nice little Ford UK Personal Import 4-cyl in there the other day ... and hell did that thing move. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: CMS Stage 3 Head? |
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I need a good high performance head for my cam ?
does anybody know what the mods are too head or flow rates to the stage 3 head ??
Or would it just be better getting mine ported polished as i was hoping for 400HP AT 500@thou.lift ???
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| id say the cms stage 3 cam would be better than the dev3hl, something to look into... |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: CMS Stage 3 Head? |
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| Futura_011 wrote: | I need a good high performance head for my cam ?
does anybody know what the mods are too head or flow rates to the stage 3 head ??
Or would it just be better getting mine ported polished as i was hoping for 400HP AT 500@thou.lift ???
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400HP bring on the turbo man  |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: CMS Stage 3 Head? |
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| Futura_011 wrote: | I need a good high performance head for my cam ?
does anybody know what the mods are too head or flow rates to the stage 3 head ??
Or would it just be better getting mine ported polished as i was hoping for 400HP AT 500@thou.lift ???
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I like to see a E series or even an AU for that matter, N/A i6 with 400hp & if you can it definatly won't be street driveble......... but any way my stage 4 & 5 heads flowed at 28 inches aprox 250 cfm which will suport up to 500 hp, the stage 5 we got another 4 cfm with a modified exhaust valve.... we recomend to use this set up with forced induction.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: Re: CMS Stage 3 Head? |
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| AUXR8 2 wrote: | | Futura_011 wrote: | I need a good high performance head for my cam ?
does anybody know what the mods are too head or flow rates to the stage 3 head ??
Or would it just be better getting mine ported polished as i was hoping for 400HP AT 500@thou.lift ???
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I like to see a E series or even an AU for that matter, N/A i6 with 400hp & if you can it definatly won't be street driveble......... but any way my stage 4 & 5 heads flowed at 28 inches aprox 250 cfm which will suport up to 500 hp, the stage 5 we got another 4 cfm with a modified exhaust valve.... we recomend to use this set up with forced induction.
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possible depending on cash, although i doubt you would be driving it on the street. Saw a video from overseas of a nissan CA18 that had been de-stroked (so bore/stroke ratio was 1.25), the block had cooling channels filled in with something, forgies, dry sump and a heap of other stuff crack 850hp (at 9500rpm), its idle had to be set at 1500 or something though |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| gday cresent im interested in your stage 3 cam how much would it cost to get it fitted and all the little bits and pieces aswell. |
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can this cam be done as a billet?
cheers |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: cms packages |
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| trebba wrote: | | gday cresent im interested in your stage 3 cam how much would it cost to get it fitted and all the little bits and pieces aswell. |
I going to email the prices to you, my machiest/supplier has being struck down with a bad flew as to why I haven't sent the quotes to you, yet from time to time he may pass speciales to me so I can pass them on to you as well, I understand your eagerness for this but I need to speak to him first.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: cms 3 cam |
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| skidder wrote: | can this cam be done as a billet?
cheers |
Yes my cams are also availble as a billet |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| How much are the heads for AU 4 litre I6 motors? Im after a nice ported and polished head. How much gain would a ported and polished head give in kw's with anice matching cam? Is it possible to get decent power out of a cam that starts at 2000rpm to 4500 rpm? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: AU packages |
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My AU stage 2 head & cam package starts from $1250.00 but you must use an edit with this to take full use of the cams potential.With the usall mods like inlet.......... exhaust & CIA you should see around 145-150 rwkw but what will impress you is, the extra torque that it will make, & I can dial it to start higher or lower than 2000rpm, obviesly that will change the power caritaristiks.....(spelling).
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Hey Joe are you able to say much on a simple Stage 2/3 cam setup on the EF/EL i6 how from 2800 / 3800rpm this will effect the exhausts audible level... as much as it ticks me off ive tried to everything by the book with mods to the car....finally got the bugger engineered as is... so not sure if youve done much in that way of testing against the ADRs / VSBs.. appreciate the info
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: HEAD & CAM |
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Kev, unfortunaly Jase had a the misfortune to get a letter from the RTA as someone dobed him in...... now as he was running my stage 3 cam, at that piont of rev range it will pass emissions but due to the size of the exhaust system & the slight lope at idle not a chance so we put back the stage 2 & replaced the rear muffler/tail pipe section with a different type then went back for reteating, it droped it down to 107 dec from 115 roughly, we bascily had to put back the stock exhaust to comply, cat back that is to 90 dec....... so theroreticly every systen from the cat thats bigger than the stock system with sports mufflers will fail over here, & thats just the start as evrey thing else under the bonnet was ok.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: HEAD & CAM |
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| AUXR8 2 wrote: | Kev, unfortunaly Jase had a the misfortune to get a letter from the RTA as someone dobed him in...... now as he was running my stage 3 cam, at that piont of rev range it will pass emissions but due to the size of the exhaust system & the slight lope at idle not a chance so we put back the stage 2 & replaced the rear muffler/tail pipe section with a different type then went back for reteating, it droped it down to 107 dec from 115 roughly, we bascily had to put back the stock exhaust to comply, cat back that is to 90 dec....... so theroreticly every systen from the cat thats bigger than the stock system with sports mufflers will fail over here, & thats just the start as evrey thing else under the bonnet was ok.
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Yeh sorta figured...s**t hey....wow 115db is alot mine with a modded exhaust, 4480 and stock XR getup was 94db...thats a massive increase in audible volume from the cam...(altho 94db is still with a 2.5" hi-flow cat single muffler)...well im still keen on a cam setup....just might have to hang back to all these inspections etc are sorted.. |
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