Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   BenJ's Diff Swap - EF into EB11 - Installed and all is good Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          Forum Index -> Gearbox, Suspension, Brake & Driveline Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: BenJ's Diff Swap - EF into EB11 - Installed and all is good Gidday. I started this thread last year. I have now renamed it and upadates will continue on. The original first post is below. Cheers BenJ Hi All If I source a diff from an EF, can I put it in my EB11? I know the brakes and handbrake setup are different and possible the mounting points for the control arms. What I was thinking was, can I use the control arms from the EB and the backing plate, discs and calipers from the EB. Anyone with experience or thoughts or comments? Regards BenJ Last edited by BenJ on Thu May 15, 2008 11:00 pm, edited 3 times in total Back to top RedRoo Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:39 Posts: 1770 Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Location: Cuntsville VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: why not just swap the internals mate be easier. Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: RedRoo wrote: why not just swap the internals mate be easier. Unfortunately, changing centres is a job for the experts with specialist tools. I am happy to attempt most things myself, but just don't have equipment or space for that, or the dollars to pay for it to be done either. Cheers BenJ Back to top ReGiE Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 3089 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (36) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: i have a EF/L 3.45 diff in my car.. im using all the EB brakes. rotors etc etc. seemed to bolt up fine Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: So Regie You just changed over the backing plate, and clalipers etc? Which contol/trailing arms did you use? BenJ Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Well I bit the bullet and bought an EF XR6 Diff with 3.45 ratio and LSD taken out of a car that had only 122000+ ks on it. Will be picking it up on Saturday, and when I get some time I will trial fit backing plate and calipers from an EB on the diff. Has anyone got the EF handbrake to work with an EB car? As another option would be to retain the EF setup and mod the handbrake. Hmmmm Will update on my progress. BenJ Back to top Sloxr6 Fordmods - Smokin em up Age:23 Posts: 251 Joined: 08 May 2005 Location: Colac VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Hi i was just wondering how you went with this i am in the same pickle but i want to do it the other way i have a 9 inch that come out of a EA that i want to put in my EF XR6 Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: I only picked the diff up last saturday (I know, why isn't it in yet) and am still working it all out. What I do know is that the EA had a different yoke and tail shaft. EB11 onwards had a flat plate on the pinion and the same on the tail shaft. At best the nine inch already has this done. At worst use the tail shaft from the EA in the EF. I also recall reading somewhere that the control arms are different in the EA. Good luck. I think you will have more of a hard time simply because it is an EA and they changed from EB11 onwards. BenJ Back to top Sloxr6 Fordmods - Smokin em up Age:23 Posts: 251 Joined: 08 May 2005 Location: Colac VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: yeah thats what i am thinking (pain in the a***) I think i will also lose my abs because i would say that the ea doesnt have abs on it so unless i get new axels bye bye abs. But anyway i will see one of these days how hard it is gunna be. Back to top Paulmac Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:61 Posts: 636 Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Central Coast NSW, Australia View User Gallery (10) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: BenJ, re. your first post. I have just bought , for our EB2, an EL xr6 3.45:1 diff complete [caliper to caliper] from a fellow forum member modded to suit his EB2. It's in transit from Vic. so I cant measure/view anything yet. Vince told me that everything EB2 had bolted straight on except a brake line had to be shortened, [probably the one from the chassis mount?] It's my understanding that the assy then mounted straight onto the EB2. His car was lowered but I'm not sure by how much or if he had to use EL arms, he never mentioned this as a necessity for me to do. Hope this helps a little. Paul Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Hi Paulmac Thanks for the advice. Today I finished removing the Backing Plates and brake lines from my spare EB diff. Looking closely at the EF diff, the backing plates should bolt right up, but the brackets that hold the brake lined in place are missing. I am hoping that once the right hand line (the long one) is located at the diff centre it should be firm enough. I guess I could always cable tie the brake line to the axle housing if I had too. I will post up some pics when I have it done. BenJ Back to top twason Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2047 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Canberra - The Nations Capital ACT, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: BenJ wrote: Hi Paulmac Thanks for the advice. Today I finished removing the Backing Plates and brake lines from my spare EB diff. Looking closely at the EF diff, the backing plates should bolt right up, but the brackets that hold the brake lined in place are missing. I am hoping that once the right hand line (the long one) is located at the diff centre it should be firm enough. I guess I could always cable tie the brake line to the axle housing if I had too. I will post up some pics when I have it done. BenJ I have installed and EL diff into an EA, EB 1 will be the same. In your case the EBii will already have the correct pinion flange. EBII brakes and axles will go straight onto the housing. I used the handbrake brakets with some oRings to hold the brake line. Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: [quote="twasonI have installed and EL diff into an EA, EB 1 will be the same. In your case the EBii will already have the correct pinion flange. EBII brakes and axles will go straight onto the housing. I used the handbrake brakets with some oRings to hold the brake line.[/quote] Yes, the pinion flange is the correct one. I intend to use the EF axles. Do you see any problem with that? I get what you mean re the O rings and the EF handbrake brackets. Good idea. Thanks BenJ Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re the brake lines distribution block and diff breather tube, I just unscrewed it off the EB diff, and will screw it into the EF diff. Is this what you did? BenJ Back to top twason Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2047 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Canberra - The Nations Capital ACT, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: BenJ wrote: Re the brake lines distribution block and diff breather tube, I just unscrewed it off the EB diff, and will screw it into the EF diff. Is this what you did? BenJ Yes it screws straight in from memory. The EF axles will be OK as well thats what I used. Actually by Orings I meant Grommets. Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: I have the grommets that came with the EF diff handbrake cable, I may be able to use those. Will have a better look tomorrow. BenJ Back to top twason Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 2047 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Canberra - The Nations Capital ACT, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: BenJ wrote: I have the grommets that came with the EF diff handbrake cable, I may be able to use those. Will have a better look tomorrow. BenJ The white ones? if so thats the ones. Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Hey All Here are some pics of my diff. When I have it all ready to put in the EB I will take some more pics. BenJ Back to top Paulmac Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:61 Posts: 636 Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Central Coast NSW, Australia View User Gallery (10) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: BenJ, Tolls Express have my pallet in their local yard for p/up Thursday morning. Not bad service 3 working days from Melb to Gosford. Once home I will photograph the diff and engine for future reference. Vince had it on his EB2 last Thursday so it's good for a known reference. I'll post pics of the detail work [calipers etc] on this thread Thurs afternoon. You probably won't need them but at least we know this setup works ok. Cheers, Paul Back to top BenJ Cruise Moderator Posts: 1293 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Seven Hills, Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (11) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Cheers mate, That will be welcome. I am going out now to clean up the backing plate and brake lines and hit them with a spot of paint so they are ready to fit up to the new diff. 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