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drazull
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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: NOS |
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Been looking into a few of the nos kits avaliable. This facination began with playing need for speed and it appears one can realize this dream for about 800 dollars.
It doesnt seem that using nos is a popular choice, but do the 6's (or 8's) work very well on dry nos? Can it be safe? |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| NOS can be safe but you need a good tune as with anything that gives that much power. It is also not that popular because it is illegal to run on the road, and obviously can cause big engine damage if not tuned properly. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| i have to say it, how does it go, your floor panel will fall out and you will get manifold damage if you use too much NOS |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| JOSE wrote: | | i have to say it, how does it go, your floor panel will fall out and you will get manifold damage if you use too much NOS |
You have been watching too many movies !!!
That only happens to motec manifolds... |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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A dry nos kit is fine so long as you have headroom with your fuel system.
No good putting a 150hp kit on stock injectors and fuel pump. You will be one of those horror pics we always see.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| EBXR8380 wrote: | | JOSE wrote: | | i have to say it, how does it go, your floor panel will fall out and you will get manifold damage if you use too much NOS |
You have been watching too many movies !!!
That only happens to motec manifolds... |
nah, the problem was the "motec system exhaust" |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: Cheers guys. |
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Done a bit of reading on NOS, moslty American though. It might look like what I have been after, as (touch wood) my new years resolution should give me some cash which I will put towards mods.
In terms of price, how does a setup compare with the turbo and super charger options? Cheaper I would assume. Seems that a bolt on kit costs around the 850 mark. What about hidden costs?
I got to do some investigation into the leagal aspects of this though (it would be difficult to explain to my insurance company)
Asside from money and legal issues can I ask wether anyone has ever heard of NOS for an E-series car? Are there any places which specialize in NOS or articals featuring NO2 in an E-Series? |
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NOS is completly illegal for road use, you arent even allowed to have the bottles connected, SO a turbo/supercharger would be better if you want performance all the time, not just on the track,
oh, and there is this:
http://www.macmurchie.com/why_not.htm |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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seems he got something horibly wrong!
none the less I will look into this over the comming months. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Cheers guys. |
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| drazull wrote: |
In terms of price, how does a setup compare with the turbo and super charger options? Cheaper I would assume. Seems that a bolt on kit costs around the 850 mark. What about hidden costs?
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Only hidden costs that come to mind are refilling the bottle. And probably tuning (or alternative - replacing broken stuff, lol).
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Probably a little more than 'difficult' to explain to the insurance company. Most likely, even if they allow unlimited mods, there will be a clause which says the car has to be legal/roadworthy. So i guess if you get an answer on the legalities, will give some insight for your insurer.
Might wanna get in touch with FPV56L on here - he loves his nos and probably has some tips for setting up on an eseries.
"Granny shifting... not double clutching like ya shoulda"  |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| You shoulda thunk of this idea sooner cuz there was a 6cyl NOS kit on e-bay not that long ago. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Installing Nitros Oxide isnt anything I want to rush into.
I think there are some (not quite right word!) legal issues about NOS, there was a bit of info regarding NOS and legal aspects in SM a while back. Need to look into.
Keeping eyes and ears open. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Personally dude i wouldnt worry about it, spend your money on getting some decent extractors and a new exhaust system or something. Unless you are going to go to A.I.R every weekend; why would you want to have it?
But yeah just my opinion dude  |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Why? Best value for money for the gains (albeit short)! Nothing extractors or some cam will do for you.. If you're worried don't get it, if you aren't then get it.
Do you currently get pulled over or have had your car looked at for defects? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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As long as he drives nicely then they wont pull him over lol.
IMO i would not worry about it, unless i wanted to seriously think about making my XR a drag/track car or whateva i just dont see the point.
But yeah it would be something decent to brag about i guess  |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| I suggest you don't try a car with it Mr XRFan... If you did, you would want it. Just like driving a car a lot more powerful than your own. You just want more and more!! |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i know that dude, but can you see where im coming from thou? More power is always good i will admit that but its just the whole having NOS if your just gonna have a normal street car.
I mean if its not gonna be than thats cool but.... aahh F**k it i cant put it into words but i do have a point ne way lol. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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lol yeah don't blow your mind up on it, I think I sorta get the point.. leave it at that eh.  |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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LOL yeah no worries, hasnt exactly been the best weekend for me lol. My mind just isnt all their atm  |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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OK, legalities for NOS on the street are as follows fro NSW at least
1 The Kit can be installed no problems
2 the bottle MUST NOT be connected to the kit anytime the vehicle is driven on a public road.
As to how it goes in an E series V8, i personally have a 150 hp dry kit in my Ghia and have no problems with it at all
On going costs 120 for the initial fill, then a max of 120 for every other fill.
Hidden costs- Bigger fuel pump, bigger injectors,special plugs, adjustable fuel reg, upgraded ignition. Similar to a naturally aspirated motor.
My vehicle went from 109rwkw dead stock (143000kms) to 140rwkw with all mods so far, to 219rwkw when the NOS is activated.
It is a great sleeper. If you are worried about fitting it, then dont. Then tuning for mine has amounted to over 3 hrs on the Dyno, with more to come, as a new inlet manifold and coil are about to be fitted, and the unichip will need its last retune for this year. We are looking for 253rwkw solidly with the NOS and 150-160 without. will keep you all advised. I have put over 3000k on the motor since the NOS kit was installed and havent looked back.
Important note to those that want to play with NOS. Ensure your mill is in tip top condition. Do all the mods you would naturally aspirated, then tune it, the fit NOS, then tune it again.
Plugs, coil and mixtures must be spot on. the slightest problem either way will kill your engine. When tuning the NOS kit, start small and work up in baby steps. Make sure your fuel supply is up to scratch. Make sure your ingition system is up to scratch. Be conservative and all will be fine. Read NOS for me on this sight in V8 workshop to see how i did it
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