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AUXR8 2
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having this under wraps for almost 12 months or so only a hand full of guys new what was going on, finally after counless attempts , rod & piston combos & destroying blocks the perfrect package was found. The second motor is in production & hopfully will be ready for our next dyno day pending our neighbours, fire department & the police ........ some of the guy's here no what I'm talking about! 
The bottem ends will be build to handle upto 450hp but with the new rods that I've just aquired we can push to 600hp+. Now for those that are going to say that the i6 is already stroked yes your right, so look out side of the square  . Once I'm happy with the durability of this engine meaning thrashing the s**t out of it........I will have them for sale for those that want the ultimate torque monster, packaged with my head & cam combo's & still running factory ECU's what more can you ask for.
As for prices ATM I'm still in the proces of working it out, so a group buy may be a cheaper alernative as I can haggle with suppliers. So far this set up if for the E series blocks, once I'm happy with the then I'll move to the AU if its doable, the E blocks are easier & cheaper to play with!
As a joint project Geoff from snort will be sending his twin turbo combo then I'll set one up for forced & see how far we can go.........
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tickford_6
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can i put in a guess and say brazed in cylinder sleeves with something like a 100mm piston and posibly and offset crank to 100mm???? that get close to 4.8L
on stock stroke you'd need a 101mm piston to get 4.774L
subaru EJ25 engine runs 99.5mm piston and a comp hight very close to what the AU pison has. Wouldn't be hard to get semi custom piston done based the EJ25 one, with adjustments made to suit a BA rod pin size and comp hight to suit.
that is if you went with a large bore.
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67RCE
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| and quite possible decent revs depending on rod length and that |
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AUXR8 2
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: CMS 4.8 I6 |
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obvisely the only 2 people that will know exactly what is done is me & my machiest..........
but your on the path.... 
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| Any ballpark price figures? Is this going to be a feasible option for a regular average wage earning person? |
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tickford_6
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: CMS 4.8 I6 |
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| AUXR8 2 wrote: | obvisely the only 2 people that will know exactly what is done is me & my machiest..........
but your on the path....
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well you'd be hard pushed to get anymore then 100mm stroke, the rest has to come from somewhere. there arn't to many ways to push the bore size into the water jacket
PS check my edited first post |
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AUXR8 2
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: CMS 4.8 i6 |
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| MooseMan wrote: | | Any ballpark price figures? Is this going to be a feasible option for a regular average wage earning person? |
M/M as I say I will be sharpening the pencil but to get a good deal I need to do more negoiations & yes it will be feasible.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: cms 4.8 i6 |
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tickford_6..... all I can say is your looking out side of the square 
power, torque & A/F's will be all avaible as well.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| this is great news joe, finally might be able to see some quick times out of the na 6. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| nice i wont 1 of these puppys!!! 4.8l i6 i wonder how they will cope with boost |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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i dont know of specs and how exactly these are built... But.. i have known of this project for a while now.. and looks forward to seeing the full potiential of this engine reached... should be a torque monster... 
it would be "Men vs maggots' in the ford vs holden 6 shoootout" dyno days...  |
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AUXR8 2
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: CMS 4.8 i6 |
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| GeZza200 wrote: | | what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's |
thats right there are i6's in the 13's sec bracket already but this is just going to make it more easier to achive as there's an old saying & that is......... ''you can't bete cubes''........
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: engine |
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WOW im amazed
Could this setup be run a a good LPG Gas system say injection gas or just a possitive fead system with plenty of flow?
Would be great for a daily driver and pulling my dad's boat and project car |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| I was looking at building a monster I6 mid next year some time. Be interesting to see how this baby copes with boost and s**t of it. |
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AUXR8 2
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: CMS 4.8 i6 |
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as for forced applications its something that I will be doing but again the durability is want I want as a N/A then we go from there as far as the new crank & rod combo 600+hp is very doable but relabliity is what I'm after ATM.... as this is uncharted water so to speak.
& yes you can run LPG if you want as then I can change comp ratio to suit so all of these engines will be made to suit what you want Street N/A..... LPG or Forced set ups.......
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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wow...this will be shweet. Imagine the petrol guzzling  ...worth every drop of petrol
phong =P~ |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| UMMMM........... Is that 600hp+ NA??? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds interesting........ |
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EFFalcon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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such a shame it'll still sound crap
but very impressive work.
200+ rwkw should be a walk in the park and 12 second n/a 6's in street trim..
good times!! |
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