Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   supercharging i6 Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          Forum Index -> Forced Induction Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   ea_falcon Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:18 Posts: 856 Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Location: adelaide SA, Australia View User Gallery (6) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: supercharging i6 has any body heared much on supercharging the i6 falcon or done it or seen it im lookin at ebay its very cheap to supercharge ur holden but nothing for fords doese any one now if they fit on the falcons the reason i want supercharger nto turbo its normally cheaper and very good in the take of and i love the whining sound they make cheers fellas Last edited by ea_falcon on Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:21 am, edited 1 time in total Back to top Mr.Kiss Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:21 Posts: 810 Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: S.E. Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (21) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Theres something called SEARCH, and check the stickies up the the top... Back to top ea_falcon Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:18 Posts: 856 Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Location: adelaide SA, Australia View User Gallery (6) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: well ur very fukin usefull mate u think i havnt donwe search i want some more ideas and new s**t half the hsit is old and tehres not much info Back to top =MaNiaK= Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:21 Posts: 171 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (2) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: i wish my nerves would push me to msg this to ppl wen i get replies like this, i want to turbo my ba "well just trade it in and buy and xr6" lol id go turbo dude heard nuthing but bad s**t about s/c falcons 10 gran and ur still gettin minced Back to top =MaNiaK= Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:21 Posts: 171 Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (2) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: and anyway dude just looked at it all again ur 17! ppl used to call me a spoilt C*** for gettin around in a clean ebII fairmont with hardly no mods for 2 years. im nearly 21 now n only just gettin in forced induction learn how to drive before ya even think of charging ur beast lol Back to top neilb Fordmods Oompa Loompa Posts: 45 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: You love wine sound? 4 litre cask? buy some neons and a monster tacho first, more bang for your buck. Back to top schnoods Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 1846 Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: www.capa.com.au www.raptorsc.com.au They do the kits. If you want to start from a bitser it will be fustrating, expensive and time consuming. Like others have said a turbo is a better way to get the oomph for a better and cheaper price. Either way they'll both hold their own against a stockish v8. Back to top schnoods Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 1846 Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: On AFF in the au falcon section they are having a group but on raptor blower kits, to suit ef- au at around $4800. Thats about as cheap as it gets for blowers. Back to top Darkr Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Posts: 709 Joined: 19 May 2006 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (1) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Electric 'superchargers' are also s**t. There is no 'very cheap' supercharging, unless its like a conversion from the other holdens, but that only made like an extra 10kw for them anyway. Back to top james88 Fordmods - Smokin em up Age:20 Posts: 205 Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: whyalla SA, Australia View User Gallery (14) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: forced capa will sell you a diy kit with instructions Back to top fourL6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:20 Posts: 1127 Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Location: Trafalgar VIC, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: just curious... would you get the similar power increase from a turbo to a blower if they were both at say 9psi... only other effecting things i can think off are turbo - hotter engine bay - slight exhaust restriction - no strain on belts ??? blower - cooler engine bay - no exhaust strain - slight belt strain ??? my view of this is the blower would be better for reliability v turbo quicker cheaper but not to good for engine...? Back to top xavier Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:21 Posts: 146 Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Location: perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: fourL6 wrote: just curious... would you get the similar power increase from a turbo to a blower if they were both at say 9psi... only other effecting things i can think off are turbo - hotter engine bay - slight exhaust restriction - no strain on belts ??? blower - cooler engine bay - no exhaust strain - slight belt strain ??? my view of this is the blower would be better for reliability v turbo quicker cheaper but not to good for engine...? i dont think the turbo will necisarily be cheaper, raptor and powerdyne are pretty much bolt on kits for around 5 gs that will run on standard ecu with a chip and generic tune, from what i can gather a decent turbo setup will cost you around 8g's Back to top fourL6 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:20 Posts: 1127 Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Location: Trafalgar VIC, Australia View User Gallery (9) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: been read in few threads and it seems the turbo is more bolt on and go compared to belts slipping etc and less bearings to go... would the charger and turbo have the same strain on acc.. that run of the belt... eg. Air Con and power steering Back to top schnoods Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 1846 Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: I don't know about the I6 setup, but on my v8 it runs a seperate 8 rib belt for the blower off the crank pulley. It also utilises the power steering pump (with a longer snout pulley) to get more wrap around the blower pulley. Back to top RAPTOR_XR8 Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:23 Posts: 148 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Location: Liverpool NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: I have put together my own supercharger system and there are no issues with belt slip, and bearings there are only 4 of them so theres less drag. The raptor v blower is very efficient and has performed quite well for me so far and there are no reliability issues with these units It may be fiddly to find ALL of the bits and pieces but it aint expensive, only time consuming. Unless you are going to make your own brackets and stuff it will cost to much to pay CRAPPA. Brad Back to top twr7cx Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 10397 Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: xavier wrote: i dont think the turbo will necisarily be cheaper, raptor and powerdyne are pretty much bolt on kits for around 5 gs that will run on standard ecu with a chip and generic tune, from what i can gather a decent turbo setup will cost you around 8g's CAPAs kits include everything you need. You just open the box, put them on and it'll go. It's not necesarily the best but. Back to top RAPTOR_XR8 Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:23 Posts: 148 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Location: Liverpool NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Thats if you get all the parts sent out correctly on the first time, there are ways of doing it you definatly can do it cheaper than capa. But if you would like something that drops right in than a kit would suit you more. Brad Back to top markr154 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:41 Posts: 1569 Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (13) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: RAPTOR_XR8 wrote: Thats if you get all the parts sent out correctly on the first time, there are ways of doing it you definatly can do it cheaper than capa. But if you would like something that drops right in than a kit would suit you more. Brad Hey mate, Was considering a Raptor V for my EL XR6 ...how does yours go? Is yours intercooled? Have you got any install pics / power figures? Cheers. Back to top Airved Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:19 Posts: 743 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Location: Canberra ACT, Australia View User Gallery (2) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Seems everyone prefers turbo, but I don't have the time/money to be screwing around with stuff I don't know too much about. Superchargers seem like an easier option. What sort of power difference do you think there would be between a powerdyne kit and a basic turbo setup. What would the cost difference be? Back to top markr154 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:41 Posts: 1569 Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (13) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Turbo = $10-$12,000 for a decent set-up ...power will be limited by what your driveline can handle ...manual T5's can handle 250 rwkw safely, as long as the Torque produced is not excessive. Autos can handle more. Turbo is also a lot more involved with the install ...and underbonnet temps will be higher. Supercharger = $5-$6,000 for a bolt-on kit. Easier to fit ...and power safely within the 200-250 rwkw mark ...with less underbonnet heat. Superchargers are supposed to give you power proportional to engine speed, while Turbos have to spool up = lag. That said, most supercharger kits are of the Centrifugal blower design = power in mid-range to high rpms, while PD type blowers (whipples, Eatons etc) make their power in the low-mid range rpms. Turbos will always have the biggest power potential (as long as you're prepared for internal rebuilds, new gearboxes etc) ...it all boils down to what you are ultimately after in your car. Supercharger = Inexpensive, good power, easy to install and get running, keep your N/A mods, reliability. Turbo = More exxy, huge power potential if extra $'s spent, more to install and get running, more potential reliability problems. 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