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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: VCT Conversion Reply with quote

With a bit over three weeks to go before I start the actual conversion I thought I would take some pictures to document it.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more pictures.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are you just changing the head for the VCT conversion?
What block are you using?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shnoza wrote:
So are you just changing the head for the VCT conversion?
What block are you using?
Just the head, I have an AU motor in there ATM.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?

This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenJ wrote:
So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?

This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.

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Correct, as for the ECU I am going to install it and connect it to the BBM output to see how it behaves at idle and low rpm, if OK then thats it otherwise I will add in an RPM switch to kill it again below 1800 RPM.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the head is in and running in non vct mode. I don't have progress photos as the camera was unavailable. Big improvement in low end torque even with the vct disabled. Top end much better than the standard head and the difference is much better than the 157 to 172Kw would suggest.

I will post up some pics of the completed engine bay and some documentation over the next few days.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some picture of the completed install.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which ecu are u running?

are u running EF or AU ecu in the first place?

is there a performance difference between the normal and vct ecu when running on a vct motor?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the Dual fuel EF ECU. I have an AU XR6 ECU but can't find sufficient detail to install it just yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can meld the AU ECU into the loom and run it. What version have got, ie AU I/II/III. If its AU I, heaps easier to do rather than the later ones. Just a major head f*** getting it all right, but worth it in the end.

Mind you I have the full AU engine stuff as well. ie temp sender, AIT MAP sensor etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you can meld the AU ECU into the loom and run it. What version have got, ie AU I/II/III. If its AU I, heaps easier to do rather than the later ones. Just a major head f*** getting it all right, but worth it in the end.

Mind you I have the full AU engine stuff as well. ie temp sender, AIT MAP sensor etc.
The version of ECU I have is a series one, the wiring is no problem and straight forward. Where I am having troubles is my ECU runs from June 99 to Feb 2000 which is the introduction of Smartshield to series one or so I am lead to believe. I am unable to verify that all series one ECU will work with smartlock, if that is not the case then I need the BEM and locks from a smartshield car and I need ford to set them up to work. This is where it has got too hard at the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twason wrote:
macxr8 wrote:
you can meld the AU ECU into the loom and run it. What version have got, ie AU I/II/III. If its AU I, heaps easier to do rather than the later ones. Just a major head f*** getting it all right, but worth it in the end.

Mind you I have the full AU engine stuff as well. ie temp sender, AIT MAP sensor etc.
The version of ECU I have is a series one, the wiring is no problem and straight forward. Where I am having troubles is my ECU runs from June 99 to Feb 2000 which is the introduction of Smartshield to series one or so I am lead to believe. I am unable to verify that all series one ECU will work with smartlock, if that is not the case then I need the BEM and locks from a smartshield car and I need ford to set them up to work. This is where it has got too hard at the moment.

when was the whole vct motor introduced wouldn't you need that model ecu????
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VCT was from AU series one on some I6 XR's and Fairmont Ghias. VCT became standard in BA's
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unrelated q - weres your ISC?

So, you reckon even if you don't bother setting up the VCT ECU, a power gain is seen just by fitting the VCT head?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No ISC as yet (very observent of you). I won't need a VCT ECU to drive the VCT mechanism, I am just going to hang it across the BBM output.
I think there is gain to be had by fitting the tickford head (HP or VCT) There is a noticable difference in the chamber from the standard head.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twason wrote:
I am unable to verify that all series one ECU will work with smartlock, if that is not the case then I need the BEM and locks from a smartshield car and I need ford to set them up to work. This is where it has got too hard at the moment.


Find yourself a real goody sparky, the one i use has a scanner that talks to the ECU and BCM and can reprogram them. When I needed a new key for mine, Ford wanted $280 to suplly and program, $150 just to program. It ended up costing me $8 for a new key from Ebay, 18 for the locksmith to cut it and my sparky reprogrammed it for me for free icon_smile.gif.

Given it runs from the first of the AU, i would assume it will be smartlock not sheild.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given it runs from the first of the AU, i would assume it will be smartlock not sheild.
Thats the problem, without trying it I won't know if it works in smartlock so its not a given, and its not a matter of plugging it into the EF loom and trying it, it is a fair bit of wiring changes to do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

may 99 onwards is AUI Update....
Smartsheild icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitch_ wrote:
may 99 onwards is AUI Update....
Smartsheild icon_razz.gif
Yes, but is the AU series 1 ECU capable of doing both Smartlock and Smartshield or is it one or the other?
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