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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mate

I have an el fairmont and was looking up few different options turbo, installing a 5lt charging etc.... Looked up mr mocks setups also yuours seem to be the best go for your dollar in regards to performance, the question i have is ive just fixed my head gasket gave the head a slight shave and new gaskets, now without taken the head out and just buying the cams vernier timing gear etc what woudl the cost be and being el i herd thers abit more play with the timing so with full exhaust what kind of power figure would i be looking at cheers....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: cms cams Reply with quote

your saying that you are looking at going turbo or something like that, to me thats saying that your chasing big hp.... no head & cam package will produce that sort of power that you'ved mention!!....My 2 & 3 head & cam packages with the in & ex mods carried out will give you between 130-150 rwkw, bolting a Snort kit will give you around 185rwkw....so you need to work out realisticly what you want...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a question can you guys offer a full engine set up for and ef with the stage 3 head
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much for just the head?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: CMS packages Reply with quote

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just a question can you guys offer a full engine set up for and ef with the stage 3 head


We can do any engine package you want as our N/A short motor bottom ends will support up to 400HP (stage 3-4-5) that is..... its up to what you want as for what head & cam package that fitts your bugget......All ACL Race series kit

eg: My N/A E series Performance Engine packages starts from $3600.00 stage 2....$4250.00 the stage 3...$4950.00 stage 4 & $5500.00 for the stage 5...... Au series engines from $3750.00 stage 2......$4400.00 stage 3...... $5065.00 stage 4 & $5650.00 stage 5, All these prices exclude R&R & p&h...... then the 4.8 ltr which I'm yet to work out, the mob that are pricing my conrods are closed untill early Jan so I'll have that one worked out then,

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Joe

When you get a chance would you be able to give some specs on what you get in each package and the specs.

Such as:

Comp Ratio
Rpm Limit
Type of Use: ie. Street or Race only
Ideal Stall speed
Expected Power
Fuel Required

I looking at maybe a stage 4 or 5 depending if i could have the 5 as a reliable daily driver. lumpy idle doesnt phase me.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: performance packages Reply with quote

Jake, exactly what do you want to do ??? do you want it for street & the odd track day.... or are you going to race it ???? or do you want a dyno car ?? also I wouldn't worry about the stage 5 unless your going to go forced induction (turbo/supercharged)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Joe

I want it to be a tough street 6 with a bit of track work.

What do you think would be the best combo??

I will be getting one of your transmissons with a stall, idle doesnt worry me, full engine rebuild, allready have exhaust, intake and diff work done.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: CAM FOR EF XR6 Reply with quote

HI Joe
r u back at work yet?
is that your phone number at work?
i/ve been trying to find someone in sydney that can do cam for e series
without the bull what size cam can you recommened without the head on an ef xr6 and without changing ecu as i wont more grunt for now can you supply such a cam?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Engine package Reply with quote

Hibbz wrote:
Hey Joe

I want it to be a tough street 6 with a bit of track work.

What do you think would be the best combo??

I will be getting one of your transmissons with a stall, idle doesnt worry me, full engine rebuild, allready have exhaust, intake and diff work done.

Thanks Jake


Jake, what I recommend is to run a Stage 4 motor with a Stage 3 cam coupled up with a 2800rpm stall converter and I guarantee it will be a very quick car. If you want a more aggresstive cam you will require an aftermarket computer, but you will not get the economy on cruise as the Stage 3 cam with the factory ecu controlling it.

When I get time during the week I will pm you a cost of the whole package!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: CAM FOR EF XR6 Reply with quote

Fullyxr6 wrote:
HI Joe
r u back at work yet?
is that your phone number at work?
i/ve been trying to find someone in sydney that can do cam for e series
without the bull what size cam can you recommened without the head on an ef xr6 and without changing ecu as i wont more grunt for now can you supply such a cam?
cheers
sam


Hi Sam, Yes I can supply such a cam as there are guys running around with them in. I am back at work as from tomorrow, if you call me on 9600 6229 anytime I will be more than happy to answer any questions for you!

Thanks
Joe
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gday mate had a read through your threads i shall get intouch with you in a month or so as i am overseas savn coin for me new motor haha.
anyways i just forked out an arm and a leg for a el xr6 manual ecu off ebay to go into my eb. i mainly bought it to run thermos and a bbm without thos sketchy frequncy swithches. and cause i thought the bbm gave a little extra poke. but you dont thinks so????
another question i also read about a saloon spec head you do where does this fit in comparison to the stage 3, 4, 5 and how much with a stage 3 cam. do you think this will go good with the el xr6 ecu i bought and should i turf the bbm?
im after a n/astreeter that will give the average v8 a run for it money. any advice would be appreciated
thanx mate
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coopdigity wrote:
gday mate had a read through your threads i shall get intouch with you in a month or so as i am overseas savn coin for me new motor haha.
anyways i just forked out an arm and a leg for a el xr6 manual ecu off ebay to go into my eb. i mainly bought it to run thermos and a bbm without thos sketchy frequncy swithches. and cause i thought the bbm gave a little extra poke. but you dont thinks so????
another question i also read about a saloon spec head you do where does this fit in comparison to the stage 3, 4, 5 and how much with a stage 3 cam. do you think this will go good with the el xr6 ecu i bought and should i turf the bbm?
im after a n/astreeter that will give the average v8 a run for it money. any advice would be appreciated
thanx mate


when your ready give me a call to much to explain...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how would this go with a supercharger?

and what other mods would you recomend if staying n/a


what power do you get with paceys and minor mods like cai and thermos with this (i know its a ballpark figure just after a rough idea)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have a read in the CMS stable the guy's in there are running my head & cam packages that will give you an idea of what power figures there getting & running a s/c..... not a problem...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im interested in the stage three head and cam package no one is there with that so i cant get the power figures im after?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes there is mate, Ford Freak is running the 3 head and cam top end, however he also has a rebuilt IT's Stage 4 bottom end.

im running the stage 3 cam and a stage 2 saloon spec head. makes low 140's due to comp being 8.8, u will have the same prob without boosting the comp up for N/A application.

also fast xr is running a stage 3 cam with a 2 head.

for the stage 3 gear you will need xtractors and zorst, plus cai would help big time. the thermos dont make that much of a difference, help with throttle response down low thats about it.

if your staying N/A, go the 3 stage 2 head, change the pistons to get the comp up or change the engine to a ef/el bottom end.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for that

i have a el motor getting rebuilt for it now as i blew the ed motor

and im thinking the stage 3 pack with the raptor s/c

should work well so compression might be good for me?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: stage 3 package Reply with quote

how much comp are your going to run ?? & how much boost do you want to have..... your engine builder should be able to help you with this running the stage 3 is fine but I'll have to change the LSA on the cam for your application , which is not a problem

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent i dont know much about the boosted side of things so forgive me if i ask dumb questions

it will be running a 9 psi pulley

its a raptor kit

the engine was just going to be a normal rebuild but im getting a bit of money so i thought acl race series rebuild kit your head and cam package

dont know what headers to run and im getting the t5 put in as i go


just for curiousity how much would you charge to do this work with me supplying supercharger brackets and pulleys i can fit the t5 was just going to be lazy hahahaha
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