Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   supercharging i6 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          Forum Index -> Forced Induction Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   RAPTOR_XR8 Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:23 Posts: 148 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Location: Liverpool NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: No intercooler yet , even in the heat she performs quit well. Dont Know if i need anymore power theres just no place to use it and i feel its quik enough as is, i need to get it hooked up to a dyno to see what she makes, was hoping at crescent motorsports but havent had the time. Yeah unless its intercooled and got a strong bottom end i doubt most pple need over 9 psi, i mean jeez the car should be good for 13's who needs faster than that, youd want alot better brakes too cause slowing down from a 200k run shows how s**t these brakes realy are. Brad Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Slick wrote: Whats the max CFM of our 4.0L i6 at maximum rpm anyone? Multiply 423 (at 6000rpm) by whatever percentage you like for volumetric efficiency at that point. So 70% VE would be 296cfm, 120% with a blower would be 508 cfm, still well within the envelope of a Raptor V. Back to top Slick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:40 Posts: 5293 Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: sly wrote: Slick wrote: Whats the max CFM of our 4.0L i6 at maximum rpm anyone? Multiply 423 (at 6000rpm) by whatever percentage you like for volumetric efficiency at that point. So 70% VE would be 296cfm, 120% with a blower would be 508 cfm, still well within the envelope of a Raptor V. beautiful, I only asked because I just forgot the formula! lol The RAPTOR is the best option for those who would like a decent trouble free setup because everything needed is in the package... has raptor ever thought of becoming a sponsor? SLY, really appreciate for that reply, guys like you should really spent more time on here... cheers mate!! Back to top markr154 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:41 Posts: 1569 Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (13) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Turbo or Supercharger ...they both have their pros and cons ...the best option is what suits YOU and what YOU want in / from your car. Back to top IMPRTETA Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:21 Posts: 127 Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Location: perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: markr154 wrote: Turbo or Supercharger ...they both have their pros and cons ...the best option is what suits YOU and what YOU want in / from your car. Agreed........ Back to top Tocchi Cruise Moderator Age:21 Posts: 902 Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Location: Perth WA, Australia View User Gallery (20) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: definately turbo, cant "gate" people with a SC hahah Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Slick wrote: The RAPTOR is the best option for those who would like a decent trouble free setup because everything needed is in the package... has raptor ever thought of becoming a sponsor? Raptor sponsors a couple of Holden sites AFAIK. He's been doing kits for Commonwhores for a while, they seem to be highly regarded. I think Tim might be a bit of a Ford man though, he's bought an AU ute to develop the non-VCT kit and I think he's planning to mod it beyond the level of his customer kits. The CAPA Powerdyne kit used to be "the best option for those who would like a decent trouble free setup because everything needed is in the package"... and was almost universally bagged. Looks like Raptor will steal that market niche, it will be interesting to see if CAPA come through with Vortech Sealed kits for the I6. Their V2-SQ kits for the Holdens are better priced than CAPA kits used to be. But I'm still not sure if a centrifugal blower is really what I'm after. My autobox stalls right on 2000rpm and I spend most of my time between 2000 and 4000 rpm, probably most of that between 2000 and 3000. Most people I've spoken to say they don't notice any improvement over stock until 3000rpm with a centrifugal blower. I want something that will be a noticeable (not necessarily huge) improvement over stock from 2000 up. So ATM I am trying to find someone locally with the time and expertise to put together a turbo install on a dual-fuel engine, while watching a couple of AFF sponsors who have hinted at bringing out positive displacement kits for the I6 this year. Meanwhile I know a bloke nearby who has his heart set on a Raptor and will fit one as soonas the non-VCT kit is available. As his car is the XR6HP which differs from both the VCT XR6 and Tim's std ute, he's going to make a road trip to Mackay to get it custom tuned. His tune will then go in the kit for HP engines. So anyway I'll go for a spin with him when the car's tuned and see whether it's for me or not. Slick wrote: SLY, really appreciate for that reply, guys like you should really spent more time on here... cheers mate!! My Mrs reckons I spend far too much time already , but it's mostly on AFF. I didn't really find what I was looking for when I first joined here, but this thread has been very interesting. I might drop in a bit more often. Back to top Slick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:40 Posts: 5293 Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: It would be handy with the 17psi setup I reckon. one solution is reduce the size of the blower to T/B pipe or fabricate the intake so they have a nice even rounded curve without the sharp bends. another is to overdrive the guts out of it with a blow off valve set at 9 or 10psi plus smaller primery extractors. I reckon that'll bring the boost down lower in the rpm range. combine the lot should see you whining of idle alot better. thats my opinion anyway. Back to top Redford Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:40 Posts: 556 Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane QLD, Australia View User Gallery (4) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: RAPTOR_XR8 wrote: No intercooler yet , even in the heat she performs quit well. Dont Know if i need anymore power theres just no place to use it and i feel its quik enough as is, i need to get it hooked up to a dyno to see what she makes, was hoping at crescent motorsports but havent had the time. Yeah unless its intercooled and got a strong bottom end i doubt most pple need over 9 psi, i mean jeez the car should be good for 13's who needs faster than that, youd want alot better brakes too cause slowing down from a 200k run shows how s**t these brakes realy are. Brad having a manual helps bigtime with braking but yep, larger front discs & calipers are needed. i reckon ill be happy with consistant low 10's. the first time i drove a 13 sec car (auto) it felt like a slingshot but you get used to it after a while you dont realise just how fast your going untill you need to stop, lol. for the past few years ive wanted to steer away from centrifugal and go for a roots type compressor, they are a little more complex to get setup right but the advantages are more than worth it in my opinion. centrifugal suits short strokes better, a long stroke needs a supercharger. :) Back to top MoNGooSE Cruise Moderator Posts: 2501 Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Location: Adelaide SA, Australia View User Gallery (16) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Just posting as this is interesting and I wanna keep updated Real interesting read guys. I may yet boost my old girl if I get enthused (and financed) enough Back to top ea_falcon Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:18 Posts: 856 Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Location: adelaide SA, Australia View User Gallery (6) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: doese any body now any one selling a sc for a 4.0l im still peakin how cheap they sell them second hand for the buik engines on the commodores Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: xfpaul wrote: NC Fairlane 4.0 Eaton M90 Blower Intercooler Duel Fuel lots more. Now THIS sounds interesting (as in what I'd like to do with my dual-fuel AU). Can you post or PM pics or details pls????? The NC 'Lane is what, ED equivalent? So no broadband manifold. I wonder how an M90 would fit on an AU I6? Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: EBXR8380 wrote: Powerdyne are just little better than leaf blowers... Get a decent Vortech or Pro-charger.... If someone made a complete kit for these (or Paxton) it'd probably sell OK. Do you know someone who can fab up a bracket for an AU I6? Ideally someone who's done them before & already has a template. Back to top xfpaul Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:45 Posts: 133 Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Location: hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: nc lane has changed again (i cant leave it alone) it had a weeping head gasket way back before the eaton , anyhow the thought about the the au head gasket etc. decided might as well go to the whole hog , shes now running au2 motor , nc sensors , log manifold , el ecu , au2 single belt drive inc the blower , it used to start laying off not likeing to rev at about 4500 would hit the 5700 limiter but didnt like it , now it just rips your head off from 3000 all the way to limiter , will get picks soon as soon as i stop driving it around Back to top TROYMAN Technical Contributor Age:34 Posts: 2940 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: South Western Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (24) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: sly wrote: Slick wrote: The RAPTOR is the best option for those who would like a decent trouble free setup because everything needed is in the package... has raptor ever thought of becoming a sponsor? Raptor sponsors a couple of Holden sites AFAIK. He's been doing kits for Commonwhores for a while, they seem to be highly regarded. I think Tim might be a bit of a Ford man though, he's bought an AU ute to develop the non-VCT kit and I think he's planning to mod it beyond the level of his customer kits. The CAPA Powerdyne kit used to be "the best option for those who would like a decent trouble free setup because everything needed is in the package"... and was almost universally bagged. Looks like Raptor will steal that market niche, it will be interesting to see if CAPA come through with Vortech Sealed kits for the I6. Their V2-SQ kits for the Holdens are better priced than CAPA kits used to be. But I'm still not sure if a centrifugal blower is really what I'm after. My autobox stalls right on 2000rpm and I spend most of my time between 2000 and 4000 rpm, probably most of that between 2000 and 3000. Most people I've spoken to say they don't notice any improvement over stock until 3000rpm with a centrifugal blower. I want something that will be a noticeable (not necessarily huge) improvement over stock from 2000 up. So ATM I am trying to find someone locally with the time and expertise to put together a turbo install on a dual-fuel engine, while watching a couple of AFF sponsors who have hinted at bringing out positive displacement kits for the I6 this year. Meanwhile I know a bloke nearby who has his heart set on a Raptor and will fit one as soonas the non-VCT kit is available. As his car is the XR6HP which differs from both the VCT XR6 and Tim's std ute, he's going to make a road trip to Mackay to get it custom tuned. His tune will then go in the kit for HP engines. So anyway I'll go for a spin with him when the car's tuned and see whether it's for me or not. Slick wrote: SLY, really appreciate for that reply, guys like you should really spent more time on here... cheers mate!! My Mrs reckons I spend far too much time already , but it's mostly on AFF. I didn't really find what I was looking for when I first joined here, but this thread has been very interesting. I might drop in a bit more often. i enquired with tim at raptor and he told me that in my case they will use the ef/el kit for the au hp non vct... as thats what i got in my ea.. maybe there is a few things with the au ecu tune or something but the actuall s/c and mounting is the same as ef/el therefore they are the same kit... and as i posted before i was quoted about $4500 for the kit.. im just waiting hear more comments about raptor before i committ to buy. Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Old mate is getting his fitted in 2-3 weeks if all goes according to plan. Will post my impressions when I get a chance to catch up with him after then. Back to top sly Fordmods Tyre Shredder Age:46 Posts: 369 Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Newcastle NSW, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: xfpaul wrote: nc lane has changed again (i cant leave it alone) it had a weeping head gasket way back before the eaton , anyhow the thought about the the au head gasket etc. decided might as well go to the whole hog , shes now running au2 motor , nc sensors , log manifold , el ecu , au2 single belt drive inc the blower , it used to start laying off not likeing to rev at about 4500 would hit the 5700 limiter but didnt like it , now it just rips your head off from 3000 all the way to limiter , will get picks soon as soon as i stop driving it around I thought the Eaton would come on strong just off idle... or does it do so then just get better after 3000? Interested to see how the blower is mounted, piping etc. Back to top xfpaul Fordmods Stock as a Rock Age:45 Posts: 133 Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Location: hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: even with the cruiser diff gears it pulls hard straight of idle like a heavily worked na small block chev , at 2500-3000 it kicks again , which is also about 70 ks in first gear it tries real hard to break traction , its fun keeping it straight its more fun pulling it through a turn in a true power slide not some pretend drift Back to top paulc Cruise Moderator Age:51 Posts: 1213 Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Location: Campbelltown NSW, Australia View User Gallery (22) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: xfpaul wrote: nc lane has changed again (i cant leave it alone) it had a weeping head gasket way back before the eaton , anyhow the thought about the the au head gasket etc. decided might as well go to the whole hog , shes now running au2 motor , nc sensors , log manifold , el ecu , au2 single belt drive inc the blower , it used to start laying off not likeing to rev at about 4500 would hit the 5700 limiter but didnt like it , now it just rips your head off from 3000 all the way to limiter , will get picks soon as soon as i stop driving it around Do you have pictures of the Engine bay and how the Blower is mounted? Would appreciate if you could post some up. Back to top Slick Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:40 Posts: 5293 Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Hobart TAS, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: paulc wrote: xfpaul wrote: nc lane has changed again (i cant leave it alone) it had a weeping head gasket way back before the eaton , anyhow the thought about the the au head gasket etc. decided might as well go to the whole hog , shes now running au2 motor , nc sensors , log manifold , el ecu , au2 single belt drive inc the blower , it used to start laying off not likeing to rev at about 4500 would hit the 5700 limiter but didnt like it , now it just rips your head off from 3000 all the way to limiter , will get picks soon as soon as i stop driving it around Do you have pictures of the Engine bay and how the Blower is mounted? Would appreciate if you could post some up. Its setup like a sprintex. remember them? they're a Perth based company who use to make manifolds & superchagers for our humble i6 back in the 90's. sad to see them loosing interest. I think they came on to soon back then due to the fact it wasn't much of an exposure back then. I reckon this is the time to bring out the plains for they're setup. mind you, back then they were selling full kits for $4000. I suppose back then it was alot of money. I might email & encourage them to take advantage of the internet, forums & the hoons. lol Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First             Forum Index -> Forced Induction Workshop Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next Page 5 of 6   (c)2002-2008 Matti Jones and Brad Evans [47 queries :: 0.09549 seconds ]