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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: v8 commo quarters and specs Reply with quote

what would a vs II 5L commo with a 'thump thump sub in the trunk trunk' run in quarters and 0-100's rough?

i've got a 0-100 of 11.5 and with basic exhaust work (2.5in w. 4480's) and a quarter without the extractors of 16 flat. dropping a cam in would make it a close one, no?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: v8 commo quarters and specs Reply with quote

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what would a vs II 5L commo with a 'thump thump sub in the trunk trunk' run in quarters and 0-100's rough?

i've got a 0-100 of 11.5 and with basic exhaust work (2.5in w. 4480's) and a quarter without the extractors of 16 flat. dropping a cam in would make it a close one, no?


11.5 that seems long from 0 - 100 i've gotten 8seconds like it makes a difference i've got a 98 hybrid engine
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know, i have the hybrid too. i dont know what the deal is. i've asked many a time. i'd love 8's or nines. its a 4 speed A with a standard diff. Is it the boat anchor im dragging or something? cars only done 95kk too

i found out its a statesman too. series II
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you would find out that v8 commos make more noise then they move but they do 6 or 7 easy those engines start to s**t them selfs after
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even stock auto with all that weight? i suppose your right. so how do i claw back this complete lack of performance?

i'm thinking a set of dyno runs may be on the cards. how much for a few runs and what do i know to bring / know?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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even stock auto with all that weight? i suppose your right. so how do i claw back this complete lack of performance?

i'm thinking a set of dyno runs may be on the cards. how much for a few runs and what do i know to bring / know?


i dont know if holden set up those cars for proformance like what for did to the XR8s made them have more torque then power
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cam chip and exaust and 165kw in 5L Holden at weels easy. Lighter then Falcon vn vp under1400kg 3.45 dif, and 5 speed high 13 1/4 If only was so cheep and easy with v8 ford
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use to own a ef v8 tickford gear & then i brought a 98 Clubsports an at the moment i own a ef xr6 an the club would have blown the doors off both fords your kiddin yourself to think a 6 ford can hold ground with a 8 holden
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

held a vq off the line in my AU I6 to 100 kmh, he wasnt happy either. Side by side neither of us gaining any ground both flat to the floor.

Was a nice car, had nice wheels etc, looked pretty clean. Guess he was p****d off that he was almost taken by an Ex Vic Taxi.... LOL and I was on LPG!!!

only work done on mine is extractors & unifilter - stock exhaust and everything else.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiftyone wrote:
even stock auto with all that weight? i suppose your right. so how do i claw back this complete lack of performance?

i'm thinking a set of dyno runs may be on the cards. how much for a few runs and what do i know to bring / know?


dyno runs will be useless for an upgrade in performance... unless you think you car is running s**t (AFR's way out) but then again better off using hte money to replace sensors O2 so on.

Best thing to do to a auto falcon IMO is upgrade the Diff. 3.7's at least 4.11's if you don't do much highway driving - id probably go 3.9's. and LSD or Lokka.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

power isnt the be all that people think it is tho....

my car is kinda a freak. Some have balls, others dont. had mine on a dyno almost cracks 100rwkw and yet I can spin the wheels off the line on LPG. Try and figure that one out. Either that or the VQ was a slow one for a 5 litre.

Just for those that are interested it has 820k on the clock and has original engine (numbers match)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aces_Inc wrote:
I use to own a ef v8 tickford gear & then i brought a 98 Clubsports an at the moment i own a ef xr6 an the club would have blown the doors off both fords your kiddin yourself to think a 6 ford can hold ground with a 8 holden


but if your i6 ford has 174 rwkw and over 420 nm of torque at rear wheels those holden 5 litres are more than fair game... icon_twisted.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use to own a ef v8 tickford gear & then i brought a 98 Clubsports an at the moment i own a ef xr6 an the club would have blown the doors off both fords your kiddin yourself to think a 6 ford can hold ground with a 8 holden


who the f**k are you talking to? Feeling delirious? In no part of this has anyone even posted that a "6 ford" can hold ground against an "8 holden". Even though they kinda can.

And saying that an ef xr6 will get blown away by a clubsport thats like freaking chalk and cheese. considering the $17,000 when new price difference you would expect that. Its like saying a VR S commy is s**t coz it cant keep up with a T3 TE50...

To put it in better perspective the TE50 wipes the floor with your clubsport, and has compareable price, $55,000 for the 98 clubby and $58,000 for the 02 TE50.- AU vs VT fair enough?

spend the $17,000 difference on an ef xr6 and you will see the match become very interesting in the Xr's favour.

use you noodle mate.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you will get thumped if you car is doing 0-100 in 11.5sec. I have pretty much same car and im doing mid to low 7's 0-100.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well hes said its a VS Statesman V8
I think it gives him a slight advantage considering the extra weight in the larger car

Though my friend has a VS Grange & Senator and both haul a**
Thats HSV though, fiftyone is talking about a stock statesman with a V8

From what i remember i stayed side by side with one of them about a year ago with our stock EL, only lowered with 18's

its amazing how people start throwing in all these different cars when he asked about a VS Statesman?
Your point being???

Anyway you should do ok considering they werent built for performance
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't be racing anyone if your doing 11.5 seconds though. You need a good service because something is wrong. 11.5 seconds is what a 1990's model corolla would do. I had a run in with a VS ute with 185kw on the back and beat that by about a car length to 130k's then backed off and i was slowly pulling away aswell. If you do get your car running right i have no doubt you will kill it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More Grunt wrote:
Aces_Inc wrote:
I use to own a ef v8 tickford gear & then i brought a 98 Clubsports an at the moment i own a ef xr6 an the club would have blown the doors off both fords your kiddin yourself to think a 6 ford can hold ground with a 8 holden


who the f**k are you talking to? Feeling delirious? In no part of this has anyone even posted that a "6 ford" can hold ground against an "8 holden". Even though they kinda can.

And saying that an ef xr6 will get blown away by a clubsport thats like freaking chalk and cheese. considering the $17,000 when new price difference you would expect that. Its like saying a VR S commy is s**t coz it cant keep up with a T3 TE50...

To put it in better perspective the TE50 wipes the floor with your clubsport, and has compareable price, $55,000 for the 98 clubby and $58,000 for the 02 TE50.- AU vs VT fair enough?

spend the $17,000 difference on an ef xr6 and you will see the match become very interesting in the Xr's favour.

use you noodle mate.

Sir everything you just said was inspiring
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aces_Inc wrote:
More Grunt wrote:
Aces_Inc wrote:
I use to own a ef v8 tickford gear & then i brought a 98 Clubsports an at the moment i own a ef xr6 an the club would have blown the doors off both fords your kiddin yourself to think a 6 ford can hold ground with a 8 holden


who the f**k are you talking to? Feeling delirious? In no part of this has anyone even posted that a "6 ford" can hold ground against an "8 holden". Even though they kinda can.

And saying that an ef xr6 will get blown away by a clubsport thats like freaking chalk and cheese. considering the $17,000 when new price difference you would expect that. Its like saying a VR S commy is s**t coz it cant keep up with a T3 TE50...

To put it in better perspective the TE50 wipes the floor with your clubsport, and has compareable price, $55,000 for the 98 clubby and $58,000 for the 02 TE50.- AU vs VT fair enough?

spend the $17,000 difference on an ef xr6 and you will see the match become very interesting in the Xr's favour.

use you noodle mate.

Sir everything you just said was inspiring


well u do need inspiring ....u bought a commodore icon_confused.gif
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