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fordman351
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| EFfalconsrule wrote: | | What bike are you selling????? |
Hey man, this is the bike i'm selling, have a geeze: http://www.fordmods.com/forums/fs-wa-2007-hyosung-gt250r-black-1213km-first-service-t59857.html
Thanks for your input Revhead theyre some good tips. I'm just going to modify the existing crossmember in my car, i really cant afford to rip the front end apart and change everything over. The way ill do it is just make a couple of cuts into the crossmember with an angle grinder and weld up the gap with some high strength steel. As the aussie saying goes "she'll be right", haha. And i stand corrected about modifying the sump, i saw a picture the other day which i THOUGHT was a BA engine with the front of the sump cut away, but on closer inspection saw that it was indeed an AU engine, DOH! I was suspicious after seeing where the oil pickup was in the BA engine.
As for the air conditioning compressor, i have noticed many similarities to the SOHC block eg: bolt holes and mountings, the BA uses an adapter plate to mount the compressor to the block, so if you use the bolt holes that the adapter is mounted to, i reckon the EL compressor SHOULD mount up as normal.
I too an using the stock EL engine mounts, they should be fine.
As for my gearbox, i have spent several thousands of dollars rebuilding and strengthening it for this very day. It should be quite capable of holding 400-450hp reliably.
I'm not going to utilise the electronic throttle, im just going to use the EL one off my current engine. |
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revhead_88
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good luck with it all man... hope it all goes well for you.
ill give you more info later on after i paint my engine bay this weekend its all fun times fitting the damn thing in their.
ill let you know how it all goes. and visa versa K? |
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fordman351
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No worries, likewise if i find something out i'll let you know. Just been reading your story on BoostedFalcons, doing pretty well  . |
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fordman351
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| Ahh thats what i was going to ask! What happens if i cant get the VCT operational? Can i still run the engine as is? Will the cam position be locked solid into one position? |
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Dansedgli
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It will run fine but it will be underpowered. The cams will retard a set position. I cant remember what it is atm though.
Mine made 100rwkw without touching the cams. IT should be up near 150rwkw. Ill have that sorted soon now that my voltage issues are fixed. |
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revhead_88
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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not with the current phasers they want to be adjusted but they wont know what to do. atomic will be releasing some cam gears next month, that will suit perfectly
dan knows more about them than i do
EDIT!! damn you dan with faster typing than me |
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fordman351
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Okay cool, i'll have to keep an eye on that. Being new to the market i'm sure the cam gears will be a eleventy million dollars a set. Here's to hoping theyre not!
EDIT: Keep us posted Dan! |
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oh sweet.. gotta love atomic  ill get them to chuck them in when i buy my bottom end  |
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fordman351
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I had a chat to the guys at Atomic (atomicperformaceproducts.com), they are in the final stages of developing the vernier cam gears. Their biggest challenge was to find the correct err..."cam centreline", or the "sweet spot" of the cam.
But they have found the ideal setting and are in the final stages of machining up around 25-50 sets of gears. The estimated prices will be between $300-$500, this cost could be reduced with more interest, but as i see it, it could be a limited market for vernier gears on a twin cam. Final release date is going to be about 4-6 weeks away. So if you're interested, speak up and let Atomic know, they want to see how popular these gears could be. |
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revhead_88
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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hey fordman i got a little update on my car if your interested
the engines in!!!!
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fordman351
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Ooooo, schweet! You've gotten further than i have haha. I still need to sell my bike and need Atomic to finish machining up those cam gears.
Have you sorted anything out about the ECU side of things yet? |
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fordman351
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Righto! The bike is nearly sold! The boss is going to let me use the work ute to get around in and i'll be starting the journey to twincam heaven tomorrow straight after work! WOOOO! Might have some money left over for big cams  . I'll take as many photos as i can along the way. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I am another one doing the conversion but into an XF . had i known about the dramas about the fly by throttle i would have saved my stock throttle body does anybody know where i can pick up an XF throttle body ? and i have also heared high praises about the EMS 8860
keep up the good work and you can never do to much homework on it
keep us posted with any useful info for all your blue oval buddies out there |
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fordman351
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Wow, i can't believe how many people there are out there doing a twincam engine conversion! And to think this was an impossible task not long ago haha.
Righto this is as far as i have gotten, not bad for four hours work if you ask me, just have to get under the car, take the wiring off the starter motor, wiring off the gearbox, unbolt gearbox, and rip the engine out!
Air con compressors are completely different, and theres no way in hell you will get an EL compressor to fit onto a BA block. The oil filter is situated further forward compared to the EL engine and takes up space where the compressor would be mounted.
Mechanical throttle will bolt up perfectly, although i will have to cut down the bolts used on the BA throttle as theyre alot longer and smaller in diameter compared to the EL throttle bolts.
The engine bay as i left it at 11:00pm last night.
Clearly the bolt holes dont line up as the oil filter gets in the way.
Poor thing.
Head gasket leak.
Number 6 exhaust valve.
Brand new alternator and power steering pump.
New transmission cooler, which im going to bypass the radiator with.
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revhead_88
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: aircon |
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hey buddy noticed you didn't have the aircon bracket on the block when you were trying to mount the compressor.
see the bracket in the attached pic
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fordman351
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Yup, i have that bracket and the bolts to mount it up, but the EL compressor doesn't line up with the holes in the bracket either  . I do however have a BA compressor, but i will have to get some custom pipework made up for it though. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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So there's no way of fitting a remote oil filter and using your EL compressor?
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| use the ba compressor, its easy to get new lines made up |
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fordman351
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Righto, engine and beefy box are out. And just to let you know it can be done in one piece......just haha. With a bit of swearing and threats, anything can happen.
Side on view without engine.
Engine bay needs a good scrub after the header tank let go.
Engine on hoist.
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fordman351
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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NOW! Which smart person can tell me how i can attach the torque converter to the BA flexplate WITHOUT taking off the sump?
EDIT: No you cant get to the bolt holes through the starter motor opening either, bummer 
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