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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: 347 XR8 Project Reply with quote

G'day,

Ok, my 347 is nearly completed and about to go back into its home under the bonnet for it's run in period. During that Time I still have a few bits to source induction and ignition wise to get her prepped for that day she goes WOT on the dyno. icon_cool.gif

At the moment I am thinking 75mm BBK TB and EGR and 90mm MAF and pod filter. As for ignition to suit, im not sure which direction to go in. Can ya give us a few suggestions?

The car will be as follows once it rolls out of the workshop:

BPT stage 2 347 Stroker rebuild with:
SCAT 347 crank,
Crow cam
ARP bolts
Mains Girdle
GT40p heads ported intake/exhaust with valve upgrades 1.98/1.6(?)
Explorer intake manifold with lower intake portmatched to heads,
3" cat back exhaust + extractors
Heavy Duty ceramic clutch
factory ECU with TwEECer

T5 (I know I know icon_redface.gif )

Heres what will need to be sorted during run-in:

58mm stock TB
stock MAF
stock ignition

all goin into this:



Any suggestions about where to go would be awes. I'll get more pics of things soon icon_smile.gif

-Steve
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are on the money about the parts that need replacing, for the ignition the factory ignitor is fine. I'd suggest a new cap and rotor (MSD make a nice kit) along with some good leads (MSD, Magnecor etc) and a set of fresh plugs (NGK being our brand of choice).

Don't write off the T5 yet, we have one here that's coping with 490rwhp. icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering what sort of cam is going into the mix? A reasonably Mild one??

I am Using the BPT ignition, screamin demon coil, dynamod ign module and livewire leads. I had to replace it at the time seems to go ok.

Looks to be the goods mate, I know the stroker they did ( in perth street car) made around 330rwhp with a similar build, looks to be the go indeed.

Bet you cant wait. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its reasonably mild... and yeah I cant wait hehe. Biggest worry at the moment is Mr. T5. Anything more than 300rwhp ill be happy with. not really expecting it until I sort induction bits though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a 70mm MAF coming up for sale soon.
send XH5LWEPN a PM. He has the news on possibly the bits your after.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd assume it would be a Crow 612371 cam... Its a popular grind for this application
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard it was a solid cam icon_confused.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the life of the T5 all depends on how you drive it. If you treat her nice when you're driving normally then it should last a while longer. In the states guys are doing hundreds of 12 second passes before their standard t5 goes bang. Although their cars are considerably lighter than ours.

Check these guys out. I think I'll be giving one of these kits a crack. www.gforcetransmissions.com
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XH5LWEPN wrote:
I heard it was a solid cam icon_confused.gif


yes I did sayt hat, but we decided against it in the end.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scaffy wrote:
Check these guys out. I think I'll be giving one of these kits a crack. www.gforcetransmissions.com


500ft/lb not a bad upgrade...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll no longer have to hang your head in shame when you say T5! icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

before you put alot of money into one of those american t5 rebuild kit i suggest you make sure that it will fit our Australian made T5s. I am currently looking at buying one for my car but cant justify myself spending 2500$ and finding out that it doesnt fit into my gearbox.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't the $2500 for the whole T5, and why wouldn't that fit ? obviously drive shaft and gear shift will be different for aussie cars but it will be just standard OEM parts from a wrecker or new from ford.

a question though. for an AU XR8. would the ECU need to be changed or are the auto and man the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2500 is for a rebuild kit that will handle almost any power you throw at it and only includes strengthened gears, alloy mainshaft, synchros and bearings. im just not sure if the front and rear shaft lengths are the same or different to the mustang T5s.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt trust a rebuild kit to be too much stronger anyhow. Better to just spend a lil bit more and go a TKO.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys need to read the info. $2500 for complete T5
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s-tranzor wrote:
I wouldnt trust a rebuild kit to be too much stronger anyhow. Better to just spend a lil bit more and go a TKO.

It's not a rebuild kit, its a new a***.
If I was going for it, I'd get the stronger case as well, thats half the problem, the stock case flexes and the gears come apart.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the kit comes with everything but the bellhousing and the case. The kit says that the gearbox can handle upto 550 FtLbs of torque. does anyone know if the mustang kits will kit our falcon T5s?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steady ED wrote:
s-tranzor wrote:
I wouldnt trust a rebuild kit to be too much stronger anyhow. Better to just spend a lil bit more and go a TKO.

It's not a rebuild kit, its a new a***.
If I was going for it, I'd get the stronger case as well, thats half the problem, the stock case flexes and the gears come apart.


Thats what I mean. And yeah, thats why i wouldnt really trust a T5 rebuild rated that high. Housing is still stock and a bit weak. Plus id assume gear sizes would be the same?... may aswell just get a new box like a TKO. would end up costing the same heheh.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first 4 gears are the same, but you can get a much taller 5th, allowing you to go 4.11s without giving up highway economy. I'd like to do it as something a bit different. They work well on the 'stangs. Here in Oz, the TKOs are tried and tested and are obviously the preferred option for most people
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