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kjoy064
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| where do you lug the drivers side into if there is already 3 plugs into it?
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Lukeyson
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The drivers actuator plug is a 4th plug. The main 3 are across the bottom, 4th is smack bang in the middle.
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kjoy064
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lukeyson. Cheers for that and i'll have another look later. I was having a looksee at the door harness and i know i need a new one but i took a photo of the dash side.
image 1 Red wire plus orange / white stripe no pins on door side of plug
Image 2 Black wire plus green / yellow stripe no pins on door side
could this be for the temp sensor for mirror..
i am just trying to limit the fact of a new dash harness that all and by chance do you know where i could download a wiring schmatic from?
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Lukeyson
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Take a look at the actual mirror plug. Normal mirrors have a smaller 3-pin connector, mirrors with temp sensor (std or memory mirros) have a 5-pin connector.
As for the dash, the temp sensor isn't listed as a loom option, so i reckon it's in all dash looms. I don't have proof though.
And as for some schematics - you won't find diagrams that tell you what's in each loom which is a PITA. But I do know where you can find a BA workshop manual at the moment.
http://homepages.chilli.net.au/~ford/index.html
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Thanks mate...
Last question for now is, did your 09/03 XR6 with premo sound have the sunload sensor on it? just double checking with one of you previous posts..
thanks again mate
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Lukeyson
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It had the connector, but no sensor.
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Well, as of today and thanks to Dave (xpression) for doing by far most of the work my climate control is in.
Despite a few hiccups at first the climate is working 100%. Unfortunately the autolights refuse to work (every other function on the stalk works and the sunload sensor is fine, probably a dodgy multifunction switch) and my ICC appears to have had a bit of abuse  - the screen has a few scratches which I'm not fussed about, but it refuses to play CD's properly. Yesterday it played a CD fine for eight minutes or so then spat it out.. ever since then I can load a CD but it tries to read it then spits it out after five seconds or so.
Also, the lack of a clock is already irritating me  I'm considering emailing ASL to see what they can do with the ICC in regards to the CD stacker and perhaps any firmware changes that enable a clock.
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Just to throw a bit more information out there:
kjoy064 - I reckon you could get away without auto headlights - mine arn't working but the climate control is fine. Also my original dash loom (from a low series Mark 1 BA) did not have a connector for the sunload sensor.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| yeh we need to get the auto lights sussed out. its buggin me hey,
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Heres another one too - the mobile phone wiring has no power, either the 12v line or ignition 12v line.
Apart from that, the new ICC looks much better (especially at night), the dual zone is fun toy to play with and even the new indicator stalk is nicer to use
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Lukeyson
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OK, so Sunload Connector is in XR-with-Audio-Prep Loom but not in XT Loom. Good to know.
There are separate fuses for those two lines in the Mobile Phone connector. It's not a problem with one of these two fuses is it? Otherwise make sure that all those connectors in the back of the fuse box are pushed in right.
The other point to check is the clockspring. But I'd be checking the pins on the connector under the steering column to make sure that the appropriate pins go 'closed circuit' correctly when auto lights are selected - that way we eliminate the switch. It's sounding like maybe the Dash Loom itself may have some issues if the mobile phone is problematic too.
I was speaking to expression this morning and neither of us can remember if the Auto lights is wires-to-bem-CAN-to-ic or wires-to-ic-CAN-to-bem. The IC seems to have all the testable auto-lights parameters, but you can't test that on a low series cluster. For some reason I thought headlights all wired to the BEM and Indicators wired to the IC.
And thank goodness I didn't get the same issue as you on the drivers side actuator! I did mine before I had full diagnostic access at home and that one would have stuffed me good. But if anyone does theirs and has the same issue, I can tell them what commands to issue using a cheap ELM327 scantool to fix it...! (I've found some for $50 on eBay recently - including shipping!)
I'll help lookup the wiring loom info tonight if I get the chance.
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Also, the lack of a clock is already irritating me I'm considering emailing ASL to see what they can do with the ICC in regards to the CD stacker and perhaps any firmware changes that enable a clock. |
Someone else has asked this question, and as of about 3 or 4 months ago there wasn't any apparent way of getting an old non-clock DZ ICC to show the clock. But they may have been working on it since then. I'd be interested too.
See, I don't have the dash pods, so I got a dash clock.
If the answer is a persistent no Re: ICC Clock, then you're only other option may be an FPV ceiling mount clock. Not the cheapest plastic taiwanese LCD clocks I've ever seen....and I still can't get used to having the clock on the ceiling in our Tory ghia.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| no power at the mobile phone plug thats weird. Maybe the loom has some pins in a different spot somewhere?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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If the answer is a persistent no Re: ICC Clock, then you're only other option may be an FPV ceiling mount clock. Not the cheapest plastic taiwanese LCD clocks I've ever seen....and I still can't get used to having the clock on the ceiling in our Tory ghia.
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I've gotten used to it to the point when I get into the work BF Futura wagon, the left hand goes for a non-existant starter button, and I look up for a clock. I get asked why I always tap the dash before starting the car lol.
As for the windscreen mount clock is the loom for it available in the roof on non FPV/Terry's ?
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Nope. Just like the auto-dimming mirror - there's a custom loom for them. But you can take power from the overhead lights.
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| Some good interesting info there lukey. I seem to remember somewhere someone mentioning (vague I know) that the premium XR ICC can indeed display a clock, but its not a WDS option, and only ASL can enable it. I'm not sure what I'll do with my ICC and dodgy CD player yet but if I do end up sorting something out with ASL I'll definately be looking into this option. I don't really want the FPV roof clock as I think it looks like a cheap piece of tat
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Enabling clock and clock overlay (when using Video) are options on the Premium ICC yes. I've come across some bit values via OBD2 that I can turn on and off. I haven't found these values in the IDS though. So this might be what you're talking about.
I've tried setting the same value on a DZ ICC without success though. This is the holy grail at the moment - there was lots of discussion about it on AFF, and there was a picture somwhere. I'll see if i can dig it up.
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