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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Hyundai Excel & Ford Festiva....common faults? Reply with quote

Ok i know one is not a Ford, but its a 4 cylinder lol

Looking at buying the missus a car, and the 95 model Hyundai Sprint's seem to be good value. But i know jack s**t about smaller front wheel drive cars and was wondering what kind of common faults do these cars have and what to look out for when buying

Also looking at Festiva's as they seem to be reliable

Also if anyone else can vouch for a good small sized +95' model efi car

cheers

4g budget


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen nothing but trouble with Excels. Strangely enough, Festiva's kill them for longevity - my mother's 99 model has done 280 000 kms, barely ever got serviced in it's life and it's been smooth sailing. Excels have head gasket problems and really are built disposably.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen nothing but trouble with Excels. Strangely enough, Festiva's kill them for longevity - my mother's 99 model has done 280 000 kms, barely ever got serviced in it's life and it's been smooth sailing. Excels have head gasket problems and really are built disposably.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excels somehow lkeep on keeping on.

But they are a cheap car and Hyundai shows that very well.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go a festiva my sisters had hers for 10 years and NOTHING has ever gone wrong. its a great little car. Awesome on the fuel 2
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, found a common problem so far.

timing belt failures seem to be common and usually result in damaged valvetrain

Been told these excels need new timing belt every 90,000kms...... not a good sign considering most people wouldnt bother if its running ok
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now looking at Festiva's..... but they seem to fetch alot more, and only have 1.3L engine
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also have a look at late model mirages 97- they are also very reliable
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a reliable cheap car whats wrong with a Corolla?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any certain year model i should be looking for?

Budget of under 4g
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonathon wrote:
my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.


has he had it since new.... i hear those motors are dead at 200,000 and seen em come into work that are almost dead at around that age.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twirqurky wrote:
Excels somehow lkeep on keeping on.

But they are a cheap car and Hyundai shows that very well.


Excel's are the EA's of Hyundai .. the look like s**t, they drive like s**t but they just won't die!

So having said that there are a lot of excel's on the road, cheap to run and cheap 2nd hand parts too!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah theres an excel in town here for 800, and was hoping not more than 1000 needed to make it pass roadworthy.

but then theres the timing belt issue they apparently have, and i couldnt imagine that being very cheap to replace as preventative maintenance?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mum has a very neglected 1999 Festiva, it refuses to go into gear unless you double clutch it. But this thing is never gets serviced so it could be completely screwed.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FordFairmont wrote:
Now looking at Festiva's..... but they seem to fetch alot more, and only have 1.3L engine

TrioS and GLXi have 1.5
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FordFairmont wrote:
Ok, found a common problem so far.

timing belt failures seem to be common and usually result in damaged valvetrain

Been told these excels need new timing belt every 90,000kms...... not a good sign considering most people wouldnt bother if its running ok


just incase you dont know.
all cars with belt driven cams will need the cam belt changed between every 80,000 and 100,000kms or 10 years..
most people dont worrie or dont know about it ..
thats why they say its a common problem because they usually buy a car with just over 100,000 kms thinking its got low kms! lol but forget or dont know that the cam belt is part of the cars 80 or 100,000km service.and some people only change oil ect. and forget about the rubber belt driving the cam..and more than likely they fail just after they buy the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok then

does festiva fall into that category?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edfairmont4.0 wrote:
jonathon wrote:
my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.


has he had it since new.... i hear those motors are dead at 200,000 and seen em come into work that are almost dead at around that age.



yes they have it since new back in 1997-1998
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

incredible what a freak.
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