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E_S_P
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| BigCav wrote: | unfortunatly mate the ones i posted are the power figures, they never touched the motors in the esp range's and they were only as powerful as the basic 351's and 302.
the 302 makess 140kw and the 351 makes 149 kw.
iv driven a number of stock xd/xe 351's and now own a modified one and my worked one is probably only up to 190fwkw
full spec sheets can be found at falcon facts, the esp forums, xfalcon
however ill list them for u anyway, this is for the xe esp however mos tif it is the same for the xd, the xd should of had the bathurst globe wheels instead fo the snowflakes
Engine
5.8-litre, OHV, V8, 4-barrel carburettor, 8.9:1 compression ratio, 149kW@4300rpm, 415Nm@3000rpm.(DIN)
Transmission
4- speed manual, all synchro.
Ratios: 1st 2.46:1- 2nd 1.78:1 - 3rd 1.27:1 - 4th 1.00:1
Reverse 2.47:1
FMX 3-speed automatic, T-Bar shift.
Ratios 1st 2.40:1 - 2nd 1.47:1 - 3rd 1.00:1
Reverse 2.00:1
Rear axle: 2.92:1 (manual) 2.77:1 (auto) limited slip differential.
Suspension
Front: Independent, upper and lower wishbones, heavy duty coil spring over strut-type Bilstein dampers and anti-roll bar.
Rear: Live axle, upper and lower trailing arms, heavy duty coil springs, telescopic Bilstein shock absorbers and 24 mm anti-roll bar.
Brakes
Front 286mm ventilated discs, rear 286mm discs, servo assisted.
Wheels
7JJ X 15" gold snowflake pattern alloy wheels, ER60H15 Uniroyal Wildcat steel-belted radials
Performance
0-100 km/h - 8.8 seconds; Standing 400m - 16.1 seconds |
Hi People,
Just a small correction...the XE ESP came out with the following transmissions:
351's --> 178 made - only available with 4sp single rail boxes
302's --> 100 made - only 4sp single rails boxes
302's --> 260 made - only auto'boxes. |
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BigCav
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:49 am Post subject: |
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now that i re read that post of mine too in the xe they wernt still fmx's were they? would of thought they would of been c4's by then
possibly fmx's in xd tho? |
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Marka
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Acording to the factory manual on the xd 351 s got fmx and 302 got c4, not all xd models had tramp rods and try a 250 with c4 and 9 inch rear disc brake rear also most xd s had driving lights under the bar and spot lights on top wish I still had it  |
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Macca
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| Marka wrote: | | Acording to the factory manual on the xd 351 s got fmx and 302 got c4, not all xd models had tramp rods and try a 250 with c4 and 9 inch rear disc brake rear also most xd s had driving lights under the bar and spot lights on top wish I still had it |
I don't think the 9" info is correct, 9" wasn't available in XD, XD was the first of the 28 spline 4 pinion Borg Warner and even this was only available behind 5.8L (XD-XE), please remember ESP did not have any increased performance. It is actually easy to spot in your factory owners manual, the differential ratios were not anything that would match any factory 9" ratios of the time.
C4 however was an option, I have no idea if the ESP 4.1 was standard with it or not.
Problem is the XD is now nearly 30yrs old, many things have been swap between these dates, unlike some other brands Ford Australia didn't mix and match without stating it was available, imagine the problems this would have caused at dealerships when parts catalogs and factory manuals never showed a toploader or 9", it changes so many things, even the rear discs are different for 9" compared to Borg Warner.
XD ESP factory tramp rods (only "factory" on ESP) were like the earlier factory Cobra(?) and GT(confirmed), the bracket just bolted under the top of the leaf springs at the top of the diff housing and bolted to the chassis rail basically in front of that.
Another thing to add is the 4.9L should have different ratios to the ESP 5.8L single rail, 2.46(not confirmed) for 1st gear vs I think 3.06(not confirmed) first gear in a 4.9L.
Stock 5.8L 4sp was something like 2.36  which was worse when someone swap it into a 4.9L considering 100kmh in first is achievable Seen it, done it, 2.92 diff ratio, gives you 100kmh at about 5500rpm, something most healthy Clevelands can achieve. |
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Marka
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats what we thought when we bought it was one owner (deceased estate), seemed like the first ones almost were built to use up left over parts from previous models. It was a nightmare to get parts for you had to take the part with you because nothing ever seemed to match with what was recommended. We had no idea it was an ESP when we bought it and didnt realise until a ford dealer told us and pointed out Scheel interior red instrument lights etc, We were told by same dealer that its not uncommon to get these with strange drive train combinations, could be worse have seen a valliant wagon with full rt opitions from factory tick the right boxes ! The good ol days when your car could actually come from the factory different to someone elses |
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SWEETXD351
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| HEY JUST THOUGHT ID INTRODUCE MY SELF I HAVE AN XD ESP WITH NUMBERS MATCHING 351 CLEVO WITH 4V HEADS RUNNING A 750 DOUBLE PUMPER THAT MAKES 455 RWHP AN XW PHASE 2 4 SPEED TOPLOADER AN XY GT DRUM BRAKED NINE INCH WITH BRAKE ELIMINATOR IT ALSO HAS A GT SHAKER FULL ROLL CAGE RACE SEATS/ HARNESSES FULL d**k JOHNSON RACE BODY KIT SOON TO BE RUNNING A 6/71 BLOWER WITH NITROUS AND SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER AND JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF IT WILL BE ADDING PICS OF IT LATER |
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SWEETXD351
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| HEY JUST THOUGHT ID INTRODUCE MY SELF I HAVE AN XD ESP WITH NUMBERS MATCHING 351 CLEVO WITH 4V HEADS RUNNING A 750 DOUBLE PUMPER THAT MAKES 455 RWHP AN XW PHASE 2 4 SPEED TOPLOADER AN XY GT DRUM BRAKED NINE INCH WITH BRAKE ELIMINATOR IT ALSO HAS A GT SHAKER FULL ROLL CAGE RACE SEATS/ HARNESSES FULL d**k JOHNSON RACE BODY KIT SOON TO BE RUNNING A 6/71 BLOWER WITH NITROUS AND SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER AND JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF IT WILL BE ADDING PICS OF IT LATER |
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| please turn caps lock off. typing in caps is the equivilant to shouting |
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