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blacksabbath189
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ah just what i've been waiting for.
thanks mate.
i just sent PPT an email so i will see whats the best price they can do and go from there. i'm guessing secondhand ones would be quite scarce.
can i ask who made your manifolds?
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blacksabbath189
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out of the SC61 range (6 or so turbo's), could you suggest the best one for the job
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blacksabbath189
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sorry to drudge up this old thread...
but after along time gathering dust, this project has been reborn!
the plan is to now rebuild a 5litre suitable for boost!
331 stroker twin turbo windsor to be precise.
now comes the question. i plan on getting block bored 30 thou, decked and possible crack tested. with a 331 stroker kit from US and a combo (heads, cam, intake) yet to be decided. but will probably end up using the edelbrock RPM performer intake manifold i currently have. if someone can suggest a tried and tested combo!??!
now, with a safe tune, well chosen combo and conservative boost of 7psi,
will the block hold?!? reliably.... ( if funds permitted, i would be taking the safe route and purchasing a dart or man o'war replacement!)
i know its a very hard question to answer, but hopefully experienced builders will be able to give me some insight!
any help would be greatly appreciated fella's! |
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EBXR8380
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Use Eagle or Scatt rotating assembly.. Mill deck and heads REAL SMOOTH, fit ARP studs and Cometic or MLS head gaskets.. Aim for around 8.5 to 8.8 compression...I run .028 top ring gap and .032 bottom ring end gap.. But you'll get away with .022 top and .025 lower end gap...Or as manu specs ... The std rotating assembly can take as much or more than block, but I would fit some I or H beams... Consider what bolts are used ?? etc as some need extra milling of lower bores..
Cam ?? Just a GT spec is all thats required or std with 1.72 roller rockers... High energy sump for better oil cooling and don't forget to weld in some return lines...Believe it or not you get less detonation with piston above deck alittle and using appropriate head gasket...There are off the shelf pitons out there with 18cc dish which should suit you fine...Btw go the least over bore you can...
Linish crank for slightly extra clearance and run high vol / normal pressure pump..The turbo's do drain some oil away... You can get away with short inlet manifold thats more race than road...
Good valve springs even though cam is very tame... |
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blacksabbath189
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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as always very helpful EBXR8380!
i have been investigating 331 stroker kits. and this from the US seem's quite good?? http://www.rpmmachine.com/scat-strokerkit-fordsb-302to331-750hp.html
forged dish top pistons with I - beams. i plan on possibly running AFR185's and im fairly sure there 64cc?!? so compression would be suitable at 8.7....
parts currently acquired..
- 8 x 42Lb FMS injectors
- Adaptronic e420c ECU
- high energy sump ( conventry's quoted me $330 for standard sump,
so payed an extra $20 for the aftermarket product )
- mellings high volume oil pump
- Edelbrock RPM performer manifold
- 5litre already to be stripped and block sent in for machining.
- boost guage and simple T piece boost controller.
- Will order two precision turbo's and 331 stroker kit to suit in the
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Nice work go the twins:P
Well my bro has a 1995 mustang and bought 1 of those ebay america twin turbo kits.
But he didnt buy the kit for the 95 stang he bought it for his 1971 mach1 which has a 302 windsor in it with a mild cam and procomp alloy heads, the kit did not even closely fit that car so he chopped up the manifolds and made them fit his engine bay
He hooked everything up and did a carby setup, pipes from the cooler straight into the carby.
He could never get it to go well so he got p****d off and put it all onto his 95 mustang which he has also put procomp alloy heads on it and with a very hot cam.
All running on standard computer with auto no stall converter i would say the car would have done a flat 13 or high 12 with no computer mods.
Now he has Fit all the twin turbo stuff to the 1995 mustang with Alot of MODS to get it in there..
The car is now scary lol hits 200kmh very quickly. not sure wat 1/4mile it would be doing.
the turbos are just those cheap ebay ones which are called t3/t4's .. think there like a .63 rear housing. they are pretty good have given him no trouble.. but now for some reason some1 has talked him into going single setup.so soon it will all be changed and running with a micrtoech that has been sitting in the shed for a while. |
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blacksabbath189
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ah good to hear mate! sounds like quite the beast. |
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EBXR8380
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| I sold my old modified VG30 turbo's to a guy with carb blow through and powerglide.. He run high 10's... |
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blacksabbath189
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just a quick question...
i intend on running an aftermarket ECU, should i run a MAF?? i have a 3 bar map sensor also, if thats worth using?
btw, for anyone that gives a s**t.... block is going in for machining next week, so there is abit of progress...
for anyone that hasnt already realised, this is a learn as you go build  |
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EBXR8380
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Most don't used air meters or mafs.. But can be used.. A wide band Lambda sensor would be better... Depends on ecu ???
Generally NO and 12Lb is about all you need with std block.. Though 3 bar will still work..??
IS it 8860 ? That have 3 bar intergated... |
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blacksabbath189
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the ecu is an adaptronic e420c http://www.adaptronic.com.au/
3 bar map sensor came with it ( in a past life it ran a boosted el )
it has successfully run a 1UZ, and there not short of electrics 
so im hoping the relatively new unit in the ECU market will do the job...
it only has 3 ignition outputs, using an AUX output as the forth, so i will have to run igniters with the dizzy set up and run it wasted spark im guessing... |
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| iv e got a new us tt kit for sale pm me if interested |
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blacksabbath189
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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i've sourced a 331 stroker kit, just wanting to see the feedback, then i'll go ahead and order it. included is the following parts
Scat 4340 forged crank
Scat 4340 forged H-Beam rods
SRP forged dish pistons
ACL Race series bearings
Total Seal 'CS' ring package suit turbo/supercharger
Powerbond balancer
i'm not sure on what CC the dish are on the SRP's, but hopefully i'll find out shortly
is it a goer...? |
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Nice 
My mate is Twin Turboing his 347 stroker EB Ghia as we speak.
Its also a learn as you go set up
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eventually got the block back from machinist. looks like a new block now.
now i need to look for an intercooler. i've been thinking about a 600 x 300 x 100 with a single 3inch outlet on each side. would this be the way to go? or 2 x 2.5inch outlets on one side with a 3 inch on the other. and then run 3 inch to intake manifold. and 2.5 inch from each turbo.
just trying to sort out how to set it up.
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