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Froudey
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 Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: Electric SuperChargers Hmmmm :roll: |
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Last night i went to a friends house to fix his 94 galant, now this friend is the same age as me but is really stuck in the whole fast and furious intial d scene (although his is a l plater at the age of 23).
He was talking to me and dribbling s**t about his galant and what he wants to do he came across http://www.electricsupercharger.net/ a company called "Thorton" they produce elec chargers.. i emailed them with a joke email about these packages they offer.
150 AUD (give or take) With the order you will receive a supercharger, performance chip, boost controller, toggle switch, and installation instructions.
| Quote: | Superchargers can be turned off or on during driving via a switch included with your order. The supercharger can be left on at all times, or turned on only when you need power. The superchargers we sell are designed not block airflow when turned off. Power gains will occur throughout the powerband.
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| Quote: | We offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee on all of our products. Items must be retuned within 14 days of arrival. As stated, a 30% gain in horsepower and torque is guaranteed for our supercharger packages.
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I have seen these things on youtube and they sound like vaccume cleaners. they have forum and them seem legit but again it seems like they aren't varible just on and off with about 8psi or some s**t..
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OBS35N
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this is about the 701100th post on this
ITS A SCAM
This comes up every 2 months or so, and its almost as annoying as can i turbo my falcon with a t28 and under 2k |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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SEARCH BUTON!!!!
ffs these threads s**t me
brad can u make the serach button LARGE! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Disco Frank wrote: | SEARCH BUTON!!!!
ffs these threads s**t me
brad can u make the serach button LARGE! |
Make it flash around the screen in hypo colours...if they miss that i don't know wtf they are on.
Froudey...I say scam. I think a bottle of compressed air will do much better then that.
phong =P~ |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| i think the resistor mod would actually be more effective lol |
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Froudey
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is the millionth thread (as i did search it is as common as the resistor ebay s**t) but most of them other ones seem to be ebay related s**t... like this seems legit (website email contact us etc etc) but in truth is load of crap, isn't it? it is bassically a vaccum motor running on 12v power soucre with a fancy turbo looking surround...
the horsepower gain is prolley essentially from the "preformance chip"... i have no intentions of purchaseing this item or anything but i wonder how many have been scammed.... |
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i dont believe it would do anything?
i cant see it producing any boost on a 4ltr reving at 5000 rpm..
maybe in a 1.3 ltr engine it might get a psi or 2 but not on a large cc engine..
just for kicks  i emailed them and asked for tech info like whats the max rpm of it and how much cfm it can flow and how much boost it will produce on a large capacity engine with 3" intake and throttle body reving over 5000 rpm...
ill wait and see if i ever get a reply.. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| reason its so cheap is cause it only booast up to 8 psi which is nuthin u can buy toyota supers for bout 300 bucks ive already bought one for my NL im just retro fitting it to suit the engine |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| try putting 2 of them on in a row. double the boooost!!! |
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ge2589
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| their electric not belt driven lol hahahahaha nice call on that last post i wonder if that would work |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| ge2589 wrote: | | reason its so cheap is cause it only booast up to 8 psi which is nuthin u can buy toyota supers for bout 300 bucks ive already bought one for my NL im just retro fitting it to suit the engine |
in a propper 100% legit turbo conversion.. with the right parts and engine sorted 8 psI can do wonders for driveability... and torque... |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| notice there isnt any specifications of the super charger at all, no photos just "it will make 8psi!", what motor is it making 8psi on?.... my 20 cc whipper snipper engine maybe |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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This seems a more elaborate scam than most, eg there is a forum on their website that appears to have members posting questions. But when you go into the multi-page threads, only the first page actually exists... I can't get to page 2 or 3.
Quite a lot of psuedoscientific babble, but not much real detail. And the wiring diagram is far too simplistic.
So far AFAIK there is one genuine electric forced-induction system available. IIRC it uses some sort of dual-battery setup as per 4WD's and realistically states that it is only usable for short bursts due to the drain on the battery. This scam isn't it, and I'm buggered if I can find the link anywhere. I might have dreamt it LOL. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| no it dose exist, it uses some hardcore batterys and can only be used for like 30 seconds at atime, then it needs time for the batterys to recharge, i will try and find it |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| There you go. I wasn't dreaming after all... |
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| i wrote to them asking for specs and that ill see if they reply back thanks fordfreak ef for clearing that up i always thought belt driven was better |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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this is the reply i got from that site...
(Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for your ford falcon
The supercharger works by compressing air that is going into your air intake. It does this via a compressor. The compressor is ran by a 12 V motor.
We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque. Your actual gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.
The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers will pay US$109.95.
Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results :
Air Flow: 1100CFM
Pressure: 8 PSI
Motor Speed: 25000 RPM
Current: 50 AMPS
Power Consumption: 600 Watts
The installation instructions that are included with your order will explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours. The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU.
Superchargers can be turned off or on during driving via a switch included with your order. The supercharger can be left on at all times, or turned on only when you need power. The superchargers we sell are designed not block airflow when turned off. Power gains will occur throughout the powerband.
With your order you will be receiving a supercharger, performance chip, boost controller, toggle switch, and installation instructions.
No harm will ever been done to your engine by installing our products. It's completely safe to use.
No modifications will need to be done to your vehicle to accommodate for the installation of our product.)
im still not convinced.. i asked for detailed pics of there product and i got nothing!! |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| TROYMAN wrote: | this is the reply i got from that site...
(Yes, we do have the specific model of supercharger package you need for your ford falcon
The supercharger works by compressing air that is going into your air intake. It does this via a compressor. The compressor is ran by a 12 V motor.
We personally guarantee 30% gains in horsepower and torque. Your actual gains will depend on your existing engine conditions.
The price of one supercharger and complete package including shipping comes out to US$124.95 for customers outside of the USA, USA customers will pay US$109.95.
Extraneous testing sources indicate the following results :
Air Flow: 1100CFM
Pressure: 8 PSI
Motor Speed: 25000 RPM
Current: 50 AMPS
Power Consumption: 600 Watts
The installation instructions that are included with your order will explain how to do a professional install in a matter of a couple hours. The supercharger will hook in parallel with your intake, and the performance chip will hook up in parallel with your ECU.
Superchargers can be turned off or on during driving via a switch included with your order. The supercharger can be left on at all times, or turned on only when you need power. The superchargers we sell are designed not block airflow when turned off. Power gains will occur throughout the powerband.
With your order you will be receiving a supercharger, performance chip, boost controller, toggle switch, and installation instructions.
No harm will ever been done to your engine by installing our products. It's completely safe to use.
No modifications will need to be done to your vehicle to accommodate for the installation of our product.)
im still not convinced.. i asked for detailed pics of there product and i got nothing!! |
Exact same reply i got prior to starting this thread... i getting a feeling this is a scam even more so, the truth is they sound like a vacume cleaner in the youtube movies (it is prolly a modified vacum motor) |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| if you search you tube for electric superchargers. there is a guy that fitted one with a boost guage and it did not get any boost at all.. |
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