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troymans serpentine conversion+air con retro fitt(finished)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Troyman, dive in head first!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Troyman, dive in head first!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TROYMAN wrote:
ben does your engine have the steel bar that runs from the front of the alternator to the timing case??
as the bolt that goes through the timing case is the one thats leaking oil at the moment..
i was thinking of leaving the steel bracket out as the bolt that is in there is to short to use with the steel bracket!


Hey Troy, I will have look in the morning.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troy.

My car has a metal bar that runs from the top bolt of the alternator up to the Power Steering bracket. Photo included.



Hope this helps.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ben.
i had it going to the one below that one..lol

ok back to it now i got to grind the lower spacers for the air con pump as the pump sits a few mm to far away and the belt just fits on when it is at maximum..
re-locate that steel support and put the bumper back on..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its almost ready to drive again..
but i have an issue with oil leaking from the lower front bolt on the power steering bracket.. its the bolt that runs through the top of the timing case.
ive packed the hole with silicone and i took it for a drive with no front end on it lol..
but its still leaking?
so ive removed the same bolt again cleaned as much of the oil out as i could and re packed the hole with and covered the bolt with silicone..

ill let it sit over night and see what happens??

on the up side ive noticed that the engine is quieter,its more responsive(less drag on the pullies?)the power steering is easier to steer for some reason?
and there is no more voltage loss when the thermo fans come on..
so other than the oil leak im very happy with the result..
i would recomend doing it to the ea/ed its a nice mod..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think thats a case of everything-went-smoothly-when-you-had-the-car-to-bits-so-it-had-to-create-its-own-problem-itus.
Fairly common.

But yeah I think its a wait and see situation icon_confused.gif

EDIT: And woo about the extra power to the fans and powersteering icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice... and 110 amps.. good stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its all good now no more oil leak..
ive just got to get the aircon converted to the new gass and im back in buisness... icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much does the regas cost?

I'm gonna need that too.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats something I'm going to have to eventually worry about :p
Right now my aircon doesn't work because of the hack job the previous owner did of taking it out, which means I'll need to get a complete system to install it again -_-
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well ive been qouted $250.. icon_eek.gif
thats new rubber o rings for the pump and tx valve fittings
new reciever dryer (for new type r134 gas) oil+regas..

if it had already been converted to the new r134 type gas it would have only cost $100 for the gas..
but because all the lines have been undone and the o rings are 19 years old its best to replace them .
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i had a set back today the high pressure power steering hose started to leak bad!

im not sure if ef power steering runs higher pressure than ea?
or its just that the hose decided to go because it was old?
i know benj had the same problem with his power steering hose after his engine conversion..

anyway the new hose cost $65 from peps..
once again its all good.. for now lol...
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it the higher pressure from the bigger pulley?

that is something I wasn't expecting to have to buy, have to put it on the list of things to get when I'm stripping bits of the next EL.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually its the oposite.. the larger pulley turns slower!

but its definatly something to look at ..
if your driving around and the hose bursts your in trouble.
there now is only one belt! (thats one down side to the serpentine belt lol).
so no power steering fluid mean the power steering pump will die/sieze fast.
and if you were to keep driving the belt would soon fry and then no water pump or alternator will stop you in your tracks.. icon_cry.gif

like i said before it could have just been a coincidence?
but im just glad it happened before our cruise this afternoon..lol
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course... if the flywheel pully was bigger it'd make that one spin faster, but if that one is smaller it would be faster.. hadn't had much sleep at that time.. icon_smile.gif

perhaps it does have a higher output per revolution because it spins slower?
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you show me a pic of the aircon line setup? i dont have mine connected at the moment as i lost the bolt and it doesnt quite fit correctly
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea ok..
its a bit dark at the moment lol. ill take some pics and ill post up a pic in the morning..
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huggiebear wrote:
can you show me a pic of the aircon line setup? i dont have mine connected at the moment as i lost the bolt and it doesnt quite fit correctly


here are a few pics of the aircon lines..

i had to bend the metal pipe on the line at the pump a bit to clear the airbox.. but be carefull not to bend it to much as you will end up with a kink in the pipe..
i used a plank of wood and wedged it in between the metal pipe and the block then used another length of wood and wedged it between the chasis rail and the outside of the pipe and leavered it bit by bit trying not to kink the pipe.,.



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how did you go with those 2 little tabs on the aircon unit? my NC had them on the top where as the EL has them on the bottom.

see the 2 little circled bits
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