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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHEF wrote:
wouldnt think 6 300cc injs flow enough to suport 300rwkw...


i would have tought a 52 lb injector???
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 x 70hp bosch injectors
Bosch 550hp fuel pump.

The fuel system gets to approx 70% duty cycle at max power with the current fuel pressure


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy s**t!
does it idle ok?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt realise injector could go above 100% duty cycle. Mine only reach 60% at full power.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typo - corrected
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha, thats better

does the wolf run staged injection?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah wolf does staged.

My 550cc's are at around 60% duty, though I havnt dynoed yet so its only what I read off the wolf display... was about 10ish psi
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, im stupid so you gotta explain it too me...

550cc injectors = ??lb injectors
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 odd
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and you make how much power???
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVO XR6 wrote:
ok, im stupid so you gotta explain it too me...

550cc injectors = ??lb injectors
???


IIRC

lb/hr x 10.5 = cc/min

52lb/hr = 546cc/min

70lb/hr = 735cc/min
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol

ok, so i got 199.5cc injectors icon_redface.gif
and they aint coping!!

100% @ wot (high revs) icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok, so i got 199.5cc injectors icon_redface.gif


Same here... but im running silly fuel pressure under boost... equivalent of 30lb inj @ 6psi, lol. Only gonna last so long....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajst fuel reg then?

2:1 ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt and adj reg would be able to up pressure enough to allow you to get an acceptable duty cycle on n/a...

You dont want the system working that hard all the time.. my pressure gets up around 72psi (from 43ish standard) at full boost but that's only for a few seconds at a time. I havent measured duty cycle but fair to assume it's 100% at full pelt.

Think it's time for you to upgrade....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.9 EF Futura wrote:
I doubt and adj reg would be able to up pressure enough to allow you to get an acceptable duty cycle on n/a...

You dont want the system working that hard all the time.. my pressure gets up around 72psi (from 43ish standard) at full boost but that's only for a few seconds at a time. I havent measured duty cycle but fair to assume it's 100% at full pelt.

Think it's time for you to upgrade....


i thought so... icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy bigger injectors... you'll be suprised how cheap you can get them. My only fuel system mod is the 255lt walbro pump and injectors. Im not a fan of malpassi force fed injectors...

Dunno what power, will dyno soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iunjectors are about $100 each

soo... $600

hmm, thats alotta beer money!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MMMM BEER
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Cylinders 3 & 4 Reply with quote

I noticed you had troubles with cylinders 3, 4 and 6. Which inlet manifold were you using?

I grafted an XR6 style dual runner manifold on my first turbo crossflow setup. When I blew the engine I stripped it and found cylinders 3 and 4 had been running lean and pinging and cylinder 6 showed signs of similar problems but not as severe.

I built my own custom manifold with shorter runners (6 inch). The engine is heaps laggier but is more controllable when the power comes on because I don;t have a huge torque spike at 3500 rpm which tries to fry the tyres then drops off by 4800 rpm.

The power comes on later but pulls for longer right through to the rev limit and feels like it wants to keep going even then.

I'd be interested to see the results when you go custom inlet as I personally think it is one of the changes changes I ever made on my engine.
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