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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: 3/98 EL: AU head or EL? Reply with quote

I've read it somewhere before but can't remember where.

Transplanting a head onto the EA. head is from a tickford ghia EL, build date 3/98. Is the this the AU or EL head. Since it will affect cam choice.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will be the hybrid head so yes limited cam choice. But if you call surecam they do good billets for au heads anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah mate AU head. they came out from 1/98.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and i think it should say 96DA on the front of the head? not too sure though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah something like 96DA or WR2A is AU head.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm not what i wanted to hear.....

the whole point of it is, i'm putting (considering putting) an EL ghia tickford head on the EA in an effort for cheap performance and making sure the gasket doesn't go being a 300 odd km engine. (I can get all this done for 300 incl labour plus whatever the gaskets cost).

I was going to buy a camtech cam off a bloke but this won't fit into the engine since it has the AU head.

What is the general consensus on going the tickford head and cam etc on the EA bottom end or sticking the camtech cam (stage 1) in the EA head?

Cheers for the advice guys.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

id put the ticky head in the EA motor, itll last a LOT longer than an EA head with a stg one cam.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously wouldnt bother with the EA bottom end unless some1 has done a rebuild. or something special and yea the EA head is s**t also.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh i'd love to throw the whole motor in but its just going to be too difficult and going to cost more than I want since i'd have to buy all the accessories to the engine.

I think I'm going the option of the EL ghia tickford head and bbm on the EA bottom end and keeping the normal tickford cam.

Combined with a 2.5 catback and extractors and thermofans I think it should be quite strong on the lighter EA frame. At least a fair bit stronger than my normal EA engine.

What do you all reckon?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the bottom end is healthy (rings) and has good compression yea i should be a very noticeable improvement and yea damn those ea's for their light weight.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has just hit me that it is going to have a different rocker ratio than the non-hybrid head.

Will my EA ecu run it?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it should run fine.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers edfairmont ur a champ
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

being a hybrid head I'm confused as to which gasket to buy.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-EF-EL-6cyl-VRS-gasket-set-including-head-bolts_W0QQitemZ350058959587QQihZ022QQcategoryZ6763QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

is this the one (for ef/el)

or do I need an AU one?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can use any gasket for a 4.0L IE ea - au gasket but the only gasket you SHOULD use is the AU gasket (triple layer metal) with AU bolts this insures you wont blow a head gasket. but both surfaces must be FLAT.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edfairmont4.0 wrote:
you can use any gasket for a 4.0L IE ea - au gasket but the only gasket you SHOULD use is the AU gasket (triple layer metal) with AU bolts this insures you wont blow a head gasket. but both surfaces must be FLAT.


well actually that is wrong,,they will blow or start to leak but not as quick as others do.

so to say they will never blow is misleading.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it SHOULDNT! blow unless you overheat the s**t out of it.... im runnign AU block EF tickford port head with AU gasket and bolts and its done about 20,000km of pure thrashing, 1-2 min line locks including getting right up near the H on the gauge...gasket is perfect still.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but they don't last forever and are definatley not indestructible.

my brother in law had his au headgasket changed last year.

so do not tell people they will never blow or leak.
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