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Alex90
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Okay so my mate has bought an au on petrol 130 000 kays. i have an ef on gas 230 000 kays.
both with average sports exhaust.
How do i make my car Quicker off the line than his? thats not too expensive and can hopefully do it myself?
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| Diff LSD and gears |
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FairmontXR6
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| Stally (auto) |
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tickford_6
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: EF VS AU |
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| Alex90 wrote: | Okay so my mate has bought an au on petrol 130 000 kays. i have an ef on gas 230 000 kays.
both with average sports exhaust.
How do i make my car Quicker off the line than his? thats not too expensive and can hopefully do it myself?
cheers |
nothing that is cheap. and if you need to ask, you probably can't do it yourself.
things that will work.
diff gears
a P/D supercharger
nitrous
all of the above
hook up a towrope behind a top fueler  |
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edfairmont4.0
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lol well, i would say that stock vs stock and ef would probably beat an AU but yours has gas which is likely to restrict your intake and has more k's but that can mean jack s**t dads ef has almost 260,000 and it hammers. quicker than most other auto stock falcons i been in.
piss off the gas lol |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| edfairmont4.0 wrote: | lol well, i would say that stock vs stock and ef would probably beat an AU but yours has gas which is likely to restrict your intake and has more k's but that can mean jack s**t dads ef has almost 260,000 and it hammers. quicker than most other auto stock falcons i been in.
piss off the gas lol |
yeah id say tear off the gas, but all in all the au is slightly lighter and has a smoother revving motor.
stock vs stock at this age comes down to care. 230,000 well looked after kilometers is going to (on a general basis) out perform 130,000 hard as f**k kilometers. ie my tranny is slipping like f**k lately. on a dyno itd read low, but I know it has more in it than what it would read. real world power ie at the wheels is dependant on so many factors. not the least how it is used in the gearing alone. |
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estgonXR6
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I would have to say lose the heavy fluffy dice, they are prob producing too much lag and adding excess weight.
I would go for more of a bobbing elvis or dog.
I hope this helps.. |
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| estgonXR6 wrote: | I would have to say lose the heavy fluffy dice, they are prob producing too much lag and adding excess weight.
I would go for more of a bobbing elvis or dog.
I hope this helps.. |
LMFAO.
well my car has been serviced every 5000 kays since new, i dont flog the s**t out of it, its duel fuel so i would use petrol if i was to drag him, umm yeh, theres nothing wrong with my car at all, not a single oil leak, had a reconditioned engine put in it not to long ago (out of choice not cos it was rooted). yeh
i have noticed that my mates is quicker off the line while im on gas, but not that much. and accelerating from about 80 to maybe 110 i can keep up.
so maybe i just try it on petrol and see how it goes. aint guna get my hopes up but.
and if anybody would like to donate a bobbing elvis or dog for my "EF VS AU" charity please do, it would be greatly appreciated.
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estgonXR6
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm why a VL...
I have a bobbing mexican I can lend you...
si senor...!! |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| manual conversion.. or a stally if staying auto... cold air intake.. cat back 2.5 inch exhaust.. diff gears.. after market cam shaft.. head work.. |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| diff gears and you will get him |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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good answer mate 
VL would be slower anyway. why take a step backwards? |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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My LPG AU can stay level with a EL up to 100kmh before we both backed off
Sunno what the EL 6cyl Auto apart from the Exhaust but was on petrol.
Mine AU 6cyl Auto Extractors & 2.5 Catback, XR8 Snorkal & Moded airbox with Flat panel Unifilter on LPG (Factory) |
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| yeah just get 4.11's and you'l rape it. |
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AU99
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: |
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problem with gas is above 4000 it just cant get enough air in so putting 4.11 would be a waste of time.....
unless..... you can get enough air / gas forced in
by providing max airflow in to help
get a duel fuel ecu as well and switch maps for each fuel, better advance etc more torque down low where you need it. |
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edfairmont4.0
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| get LPG injection mmmmmmmmm yum MORE torque and power , no restriction and, cheaper and get 4.11's lol |
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edfairmont4.0
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| AU99 wrote: | problem with gas is above 4000 it just cant get enough air in so putting 4.11 would be a waste of time.....
unless..... you can get enough air / gas forced in
by providing max airflow in to help
get a duel fuel ecu as well and switch maps for each fuel, better advance etc more torque down low where you need it. |
yeah i know what thats like i was driving my mates ED fairmont on gas and it felt starved above 4500, although i managed to get it past 6000 lol no limiter on gas hehe poor ed engine.  |
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AU99
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It took me a fair bit of research to get mine going good above 4000. Was always brilliant off the line but lacked top end but with the airbox mods and another stepper motor if finally pulls above 3500 to redline.
Last dyno day I was really disapointed. Had perfect AFR too. So I did some research and came up with a winner that was really apparent, cos as soon as I did my airbox and snorkal it crapped itself at 90kays +.... Not enough LPG
So in went a new stepper motor and holy crap did it go. LPG consumption went up slightly but and more than happy with the results so far.
Will have to get her on the dyno again to see how far. |
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