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edfairmont4.0
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| man just imagine a slightly modified 4.0L in a nissan body and good gearing??? hmmm 4.0L with a mild cam usually pull up to 150rwkw.... ever think of that idiot? Your sounding like you should own a full sik V6 vn s**t thats "really quick with little mods" lol im sure you could get about 150 engine kw out of those! |
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bluecube
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| keep it to yourself mate. if you got nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. |
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xcabbi
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Well I do have a VL in my garage which belongs to my brother but we are prepared to piss it off and get something that would require a lot less work to fit a ford I6 into.
Considering his car is at the limit with dead stock parts besides a front mount cooler (estimated 150 rwkW) and we are not in the mood to chuck copious amounts of money at it to get it how hard we feel a turbo car should be running in this day and age the switch to ford power is a very wise choice. Especially when my cab gets decomissioned.
Basic LPG system factory fitted - check (will need twin lines fitted and a GRA system for what we want but that's no biggie)
4L motor - check (will be copping a major rebuild which will still work out cheaper than if the equivalent parts were fitted to an RB30)
relatively lightweight body - check (rubber floor vinyl seats and minimal electrics, already in the low 1500kg range and will be even lighter once all the unnecessary items get tossed)
Another mark against the RB30 is that its one of the heavier I6's getting around. |
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drewinEF
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| Quote: | | Thats awesome.... a whole 3 kw more than a stock Ef/El !! |
and about 300-400kg lighter.  My cousin has a R31. The motor has a 40thou overbore, forged pistons, bigger cam, and ported head. not quite sure how much power his motor has, but even when it was auto, it still whipped my EF  the 5spd box that was recently installed has made it even more fun to drive. can't go past the old nissans, they are good vehicles. |
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Froudey
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| Did some one put there mining hat on? i still can't see were this is going... |
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drewinEF
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| lol, yeah about that... you could say it's a pointless topic of conversation. |
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edfairmont4.0
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| bluecube wrote: | | keep it to yourself mate. if you got nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. |
No I will say what I like, I made a valid point that the 4.0L is a BETTER motor. Its not the RB30 that makes it quick its the light weight peice of s**t car its in that makes it quick.
Hell i'll go drop my heavily worked 4L into a VH commodore with a 5 speed....yeah its a s**t car but its light! be good for LOW 13s get the picture? |
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EBXR8380
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I have seen come supper quick 2J motors in lightweight drag cars..
Imo if a well sorted 4.0 had the same treatment ? It should run in 7 second area... Would have to be sorted auto etc.. |
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| the VL sedan kerb weight was around 1250kg. the EA sedan was 1400kg (1430kg for the eb series1). |
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bluecube
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| edfairmont4.0 wrote: | | bluecube wrote: | | keep it to yourself mate. if you got nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. |
No I will say what I like, I made a valid point that the 4.0L is a BETTER motor. Its not the RB30 that makes it quick its the light weight peice of s**t car its in that makes it quick.
Hell i'll go drop my heavily worked 4L into a VH commodore with a 5 speed....yeah its a s**t car but its light! be good for LOW 13s get the picture? |
lol dude you're bringing up a post from nov 2007.
we're all gotten over it since.
everyone has gotta remember that the rb30 is a 3litre. falcon uses a 4litre. it really isnt a fair comparison.
and the rb30 is just a sohc just like a falcon 4.0. |
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xcabbi
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| EBXR8380 wrote: | I have seen come supper quick 2J motors in lightweight drag cars..
Imo if a well sorted 4.0 had the same treatment ? It should run in 7 second area... Would have to be sorted auto etc.. |
Now this is what I want to see. Full tube frame Mondeo powered by a monster Barra Turbo Motor being one of the front runners in PRO RWD. |
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Hybrid34
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Redford wrote: | | the VL sedan kerb weight was around 1250kg. the EA sedan was 1400kg (1430kg for the eb series1). |
They Roadtested (not sure what program) a Stock VL with a Stock EB XR6 S...EB left the VL for dead, and said it handled alot better...so forth
As for the R31 my gf and her brother both drive them, their great boxy cars, they got abit of go to them...but my fairlane...and my last 2 cars (Stock Classic ED) and Xr6 still leave em for dead:D |
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edfairmont4.0
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds about right lol |
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Froudey
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Hey guys i am thinking of going to the old mate i swapped the old r31 for an ea for and going to offer him to buy it off him (i am sure by now it would have close to 450 thousand kms) so i can rebuilt it put a turbo 3.9 or a 4.1 efi into it.... |
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edfairmont4.0
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| going a turbo 4.0L |
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ghia97
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: r31 |
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| Sorry ed Fairmont bat that were you are wrong. A 3 litre RB30 was introduced in 1986 with 118kw in r31 form and the equvalant for 4.1 litre ford with EFI was 120kw. That was a dismal output for 1.1 litre larger in capacity engine. While the MPEFI versions are better still up till the AU111 some 14 years later they still were only still reaching the output per litre as the old Nissan engine. Most ford engines are complete rubbish up to the BA series. How many headgaskets have people done? The 3.0l Nissan engine was also much lighter than the 4l ford engine so it wasnt just the lighter frame and better gearing. The standard Nissan engine will tolerate more power than a standard 4L.A decent 20 year old manual rb30 will eat either of my fords and use less fuel. It doesnt really matter what vehicle you have if you pour $$$ into it you can go fast. If you look up 0-100 times for R31`s and Fords you might get a surprise! |
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| To compare a 4l to the rb30 a 50 cent coin can sit perfectly still on the tappet cover of the rb but moves slighty on the 4l |
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Nicko
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| didnt you have an r31 sillhouete? or was that Kane? |
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ghia97
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: R31 |
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| Yeah Nick, I had it first then sold it to Kane, and then got it back a couple of years later and thrashed it some more, The body fell apart before the Engine gave up. It copped two tbones, one rear ender and one 2m in the air and down and a front on, before we decided to call it quits. |
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hahahah
They were good cars the R31
Solid engineering ! |
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