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duderat
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| I connected up my new pioneer 460 watt 6x9's yesterday and they seemed quiet with not much bass. they are rated at 80 watts rms and the amp is a 600 watt with 60 rms per channell. if i turn up the gain onto full on the amp, will the speakers work better or should i get rid of the speakers. maybe i have wired them wrong. |
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outlawxr6
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Firstly don't turn up the gains, make sure that the speakers are wired correctly ie + on the amp to + on the speakers etc, second make sure that the speakers are mounted solidly and no air gaps betweent the front and rear of the speakers.
See how this goes... |
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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If one speaker has been wired back to front, then most of your bass will be missing because they'll cancel each other out.
Also make sure there isn't a "high-pass" filter set on the amp. This removes the bass from the output.
The gain shouldn't be used like a volume control. It's used to match the amp to the headunit so that when you turn your headunit up to maximum, your speakers are working at their maximum distortion-free volume. ie. not too quiet, and not too loud/distorted/damaging. |
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duderat
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| i only connected one speaker and still had the other factory speaker in at the time and also the 6x9 was just sitting in the boot so i will mount both on the parcel shelf and then connect them up. i wasnt sure with the factory wiring though which colour was the positive and which was the negative. i will have another go when i get time and see how i go. |
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Dont use the factory wiring with 460W speakers, they will have no way near the capacity to run them and will burn the wire very quick. |
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duderat
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| GeZza200 wrote: | | Dont use the factory wiring with 460W speakers, they will have no way near the capacity to run them and will burn the wire very quick. |
oh ok then. what do you suggest i do? run some wires strait from the amp to the speakers instead of going through the factory wire? at the moment it is going from the amp to the factory wires behind the head unit and then through the factorys up to the speakers |
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Wait!. Speakers need to be run in as well  |
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duderat
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| Nigel wrote: | | Wait!. Speakers need to be run in as well |
run in hey... what does that involve? im guessing you just use them at varying volumes and stuff for a while like running in an engine maybe? |
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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From what you just said, the problem is just that the speaker wasn't mounted. If the air from the front and back of the speaker can mix then you will not get good sound. The sound waves will cancel out at some frequencies.
As far as the wiring thickness - I don't think you'll have a problem.
Have a look at the thickness of the wire in the back of the speaker that goes from the terminal through to the pole. Thin as.
Thicker would be better but it may not make enough difference to even be noticeable. |
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| run new wires. from the amp to spekers. and you new decent quality wire. and run them in. meaning not loud volume for a week. they will progressively get louder |
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outlawxr6
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| duderat wrote: | | i only connected one speaker and still had the other factory speaker in at the time and also the 6x9 was just sitting in the boot so i will mount both on the parcel shelf and then connect them up. i wasnt sure with the factory wiring though which colour was the positive and which was the negative. i will have another go when i get time and see how i go. |
Exactly like I said before about the front being sealed from the back..... |
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duderat
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bingo boys! your all 100% right. i mounted both speakers today and they sounded much better. regarding the running in, i will keep the volume down a bit for a couple of weeks. thanks heaps for all the help  |
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| nah only a week will do. i did that with my JBL's and now they sound unreal |
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