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twr7cx is spot -on with point 5. As far as emissions go, an atmo-vented BOV is perfectly legal on a MAP (or TMAP, MAF-less) equipped car but may not be legal with a MAF. I posted a long technical explanation of this from an engineering signatory (NSW) on AFF. But emissions are not the only hurdle to jump. An atmo-vented BOV may be too noisy to pass a drive-by noise test, so the plumb-back may be needed on noise grounds.
As far as point 4 goes, IIRC the CAPA or Raptor (or maybe 928motorsports) site explains that a centrifugal blower offers little restriction to air being sucked through it. So "negative boost" would be negligible. There should be slight positive pressure (perhaps under 1psi) by 2000 rpm anyway. |
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| Hmm, thats cool to know, thanks |
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You've all been incredibly helpful, thanks for all your time its most appreciated.
I cant believe i waited so long to get into the forced induction scene, wow its a totally different thing isnt it?
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I got an engineer to look into engineering a Capa kit about a year ago. At the time he said he couldn't get any documentation off Capa that the 4.0L powerdyne met ADR emmisions requirements. So i didnt go any further buying that car.
Its a myth that each emmision test is ~$3k, they can and have been done for about $1.5k. As others have said best thing is to get the list and start ringing around. |
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Cool thanks alot mate 
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| frd_xr6 wrote: | | Its a myth that each emmision test is ~$3k, they can and have been done for about $1.5k. As others have said best thing is to get the list and start ringing around. |
That is what I was quoted from Dynomotive in Bayswater who use Archie Robertson as their VicRoads accredited engineer.
Show me / prove who will do the emissions test for cheaper ? AFAIK, it all gets done at the same testing facilities. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: emmisions |
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Emmision testing in NSW Sydney at Botany or Penrith is for free.
If it passes the emmisions test then you will recieve documentation which you forward onto your engineer then he can engineer the work. |
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WOW free in NSW
Just goes to show how much VIC bends us over, Hey ? |
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Yeah $1,500 is stupid, $3,000 is totally unrealistic!
Matt
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| wait till you get to WA.. I think there is only one company in the state that actually has the equipment. |
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Yeah, i have spoken to a few ppl about emissions testing now, some say that $3k for the test is s**t, "more like $150", some say that the capa kit comes with a compliance thing for the emissions, who knows.
I will find out the truth and let everyone know
Matt
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| -GAS-MAN- wrote: | Yeah, i have spoken to a few ppl about emissions testing now, some say that $3k for the test is s**t, more like $150, some say that the capa kit comes with a compliance thing for the emissions, who knows.
I will find out the truth and let everyone know
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Called any engineers yet? |
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| Dansedgli wrote: | | Called any engineers yet? |
Lol, yes, Bendigo's engineer isnt taking on anymore work until the middle of March and CAPA havent gotten back to me :S |
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| Just ring CAPA, not that they are actually any help :rollseyes: |
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| Lukeyson wrote: | | I'd be curious on a beginners walk-through of what it takes to get the CAPA Powerdyne setup approved in NSW... |
I'll be doing this soon with a Raptor kit, CAPA having told me they no longer supply Powerdyne kits when I rang them, credit card in hand, last September. I'm not far out of Maitland BTW. |
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Are you talking about 4V 5.4 kits?
I'm guessing not since the website only shows Raptor doing I6 kits.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Do you have the kit already? I got the impression CAPA have gone out of Powerdynes altogether. If you bought the kit from CAPA they should be able to supply emissions compliance paperwork when they get evidence you've installed the kit as per their instructions. You shouldn't then have to do an IM240 emissions test, but will need an engineer's inspection and certificate, and possibly a drive-by noise test.
If you get a kit 2nd hand via Ebay, CAPA probably won't supply the paperwork at a guess, and you'll have to do the IM240 test at Penrith or Rosebery.
I know I'll have to have the full range of tests & inspections on my car as Raptor don't emissions-certify their kits and I have a non-standard exhaust, so when I get through the hoops & post up the procedure it'll be a worst case.
Yes my car is a 6, but the procedure will be the same for a V8.
[Edit] I do have a timing issue though. I'll need a rego inspection in August & I'm not sure if I'll have it engineered by then. I'll probably wait until I get it registered before I install the kit. |
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Getting back to insurance, I was quoted $190 by Just Car for my Vortech-powered 5.0. However, as pointed out by others, Just Car have "we will not cover a car with illegal or unroadworthy modifications" in their fine print. So what's the friggen point...
Shannon's insurance was interesting. I was quoted $550 through them, and their fine print states that they WILL cover a car with illegal or unroadworthy mods, AS LONG AS the insurance claim is not in relation to the illegal/unroadworthy mod.
If I was a a*** and ignored a stop sign & ploughed into an $80k mercedes, I'd be covered. If I booted it up the prinny, lost control & smacked into an $80k mercedes, I would not be covered. |
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Shannon's insurance was interesting. I was quoted $550 through them, and their fine print states that they WILL cover a car with illegal or unroadworthy mods, AS LONG AS the insurance claim is not in relation to the illegal/unroadworthy mod.
If I was a a*** and ignored a stop sign & ploughed into an $80k mercedes, I'd be covered. If I booted it up the prinny, lost control & smacked into an $80k mercedes, I would not be covered. |
I think it may be a little more subjective than that.
If you booted down a hill and lost control - sure the charger let you get that fast, but it could be said you may have lost control without the charger.
I'd say more along the line of spacers - illegal, but they will cover the car with them as long as they weren't the cause - ie whele nuts snapped and you hit another car.
While i'm sure they would try the charger was the cause of the accident you'd have a stance of prove it was the extra power provided by the charger and not my s**t driving that caused it |
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