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daniel000
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Hey guys, decided to load up the old p4 i have an there is some issues but it may be easily fixed
its all conected up but when i chuck the power cable in for the tower, the tower automaticaly switches on, but doesnt exactly load up, the load light is constantly red but whenever i press the reset button or press the of on button nothing seems to happen |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Check to see if the memory is properly seated in the motherboard |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah im pretty sure it all is... would it be the power supply? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Could be  Just re-check all of your connections from the power supply to the motherboard, HD, disc drives etc, but not likely. Possible HD failed. Have a multimeter? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Is it making any noises during start up? make sure everything is in properly.
If all fails try and use another PSU if you have one lying around. If that fails the test, mobo is hoboed.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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i had this problem after i cracked the s**t with my pc and punched the side of the case (the stupid thing kept freezing on me) anyway i must of shorted something out by the contact that was made between the motherboard and the sidepanel.
i would push the power button and it would turn on but the light lights would stay solid but nothing would happen |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Could also be that the power switch is busted, try shorting the two pins for the power switch on the mobo with a screwdriver or something and see if that kicks it into life. I've known of the switches dying and when I was working in a very busy and popular PC store, a lot of the cheaper cases the power switch was DOA. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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ah k
so what should i do to kick it bak on ?? with the screwdriver thing |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| nanna wat did u do to fix? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| daniel000 wrote: | ah k
so what should i do to kick it bak on ?? with the screwdriver thing |
where the power switch connects to the mobo, all that switch does is briefly make a connection between the two pins, so disconnect the power switch and using a small screwdriver bridge those two pins and see if it starts up or not. If it does start, the power switch is dead, if not, it's something else, I'd be betting psu next, bu tthe switch is easy to check. |
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| daniel000 wrote: | | nanna wat did u do to fix? |
didnt, i binned it a bought a new a new system  i know thats not what you wanted to hear but that sys was rubbish with cheap parts so i took the opportunity to build a better tower with reputable parts |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| if the tower automatically switches on then the comp already is turned on. You might try to clear the CMOS. You'll have to look this up for you motherboard as the pins are different depending on brand but are either labelled jp1 or clr_cms |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ok, yeh but the comp doesnt actually load up if ya no wat i mean, just power is going thru the thing |
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There should be a LED or some other indication of the power supply providing the motherboard power when you connect up a power supply, you don't need to turn a PC on for it to light up. If you press the button and the fans spin up but nothing happens, check to make sure you've got the CPU fan connector plugged in, make sure RAM is seated properly, make sure video card is seated properly.
If still nothing, then disconnet everything except your CPU, RAM, video card and motherboard (obviously leave the cabling for these things plugged in), and replace them one by one until you find what is causing the problem.
While you're digging around you should be able to see if anything is causing it to short out.. |
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| haggis wrote: | There should be a LED or some other indication of the power supply providing the motherboard power when you connect up a power supply, you don't need to turn a PC on for it to light up. If you press the button and the fans spin up but nothing happens, check to make sure you've got the CPU fan connector plugged in, make sure RAM is seated properly, make sure video card is seated properly.
If still nothing, then disconnet everything except your CPU, RAM, video card and motherboard (obviously leave the cabling for these things plugged in), and replace them one by one until you find what is causing the problem.
While you're digging around you should be able to see if anything is causing it to short out.. |
yeah the thing is... i put the power cable into the comp, and the light is on and the fan is spinning.... without pressing the power buttons |
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Then i'd say something is causing it to short circuit. If you want to spend some time trying to fix it, take out the add-in cards on the motherboard, unplug your drives, then unscrew your motherboard and pull it all out. Take careful note of where the small cables which run from the front of the case (power & reset switch & hdd led & speaker) to the motherboard (usually bottom right) go, and which way they are plugged in. - you'll have to plug them back in and they're usually very fiddly. If you have your motherboard manual with you, it should tell you which way they all go.
Put the motherboard on something which doesn't carry static and isn't conductive, then put the video card back in, and connect the power supply. You will be able to see everything much better with the board out of the case.. good time to give it a clean too. I usually use a toothbrush.
Plug the power in and see what happens. You will be able to start the computer by shorting out the 2 power pins which go to the front of the case. Use the screwdriver.. You can turn it off again by holding the screwdriver on those same pins for 4-5 seconds. If it starts as it should, then you just need to be careful putting it back into the case to make sure it doesn't short out on whatever was making it short in the first place.
If the problem still exists, well at least you've crossed a few things off the list. While it's out of the tower is the perfect time to test other things like CPU and motherboard if you can find spare test replacements from friends / family etc. A power supply is cheap and they're the most common failure when it comes to pc's. It doesn't hurt to buy one to have as a test unit / spare. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| daniel000 wrote: | | haggis wrote: | There should be a LED or some other indication of the power supply providing the motherboard power when you connect up a power supply, you don't need to turn a PC on for it to light up. If you press the button and the fans spin up but nothing happens, check to make sure you've got the CPU fan connector plugged in, make sure RAM is seated properly, make sure video card is seated properly.
If still nothing, then disconnet everything except your CPU, RAM, video card and motherboard (obviously leave the cabling for these things plugged in), and replace them one by one until you find what is causing the problem.
While you're digging around you should be able to see if anything is causing it to short out.. |
yeah the thing is... i put the power cable into the comp, and the light is on and the fan is spinning.... without pressing the power buttons |
ok many computers have an option in bios to automatically turn the computer on when power cale is reconnected this is not a problem i think you'll find this is normal.
I think your best bet is to remove the ram and use another stick or if there's two try booting it one stick at a time as one of the ram sticks may be stuffed or the ram port may be stuffed. That fixed mine when it had the same problem. |
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