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xcrushxkillxdestroyx
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hey guys,
me and my dads project car is getting stripped in the coming months and we are looking to buy some engine parts soon.
looking at spending about 15-20,000 on the motor over a period of time and looking to get close to 350rwkw.
we are stripping EVERYTHING from the car so what im wondering is...
would a 351 fit in the bay? and if so is it a better starting point than a 302 with a 347 stroker?
we will be most likely carbing it due to simplicity, and getting rid of the ECU 
all opinions would be greatly appreciated |
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Freak6
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351 would fit no problem mate. you may need to make your own engine mounts.
a 347 stroker would give you plenty of power but its all been done before.
a 383 or 393 stroker would be rad with a c4 behind it.
i no you can get a brand new crate 347 for around the 14g mark. |
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steveurban
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| what type of car are you building? |
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skidder
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: Re: new engine for the XR8 |
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| xcrushxkillxdestroyx wrote: | | we will be most likely carbing it due to simplicity, and getting rid of the ECU |
why?
$15-20 grand on a motor and it won't even be able to be registered, plus you will be losing driveability....it only costs like a grand for a chip to be tuned and it will run better than a carbie |
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xcrushxkillxdestroyx
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't think it was illegal to register a car if you got rid of EFI...
the car is an AU XR8, i know its not what most people would spend a lot of money on but we already have the car and i think its will be a good way for me to learn about engines.
i want something that is really different.
skidder, what you say about getting a chip tuned, would that be able to be done if i was to put a stoked 351 in it?
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nannas_ed
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| xcrushxkillxdestroyx wrote: | | I didn't think it was illegal to register a car if you got rid of EFI... |
it's not illegal, its just that its un-roadworthy
vechile must comply with emmisions, adr's etc etc revelent to that year
this is why people people who do ground up resto's with insane engine's choose older vechiles. less restrictions to pass |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| hey nannas ed, sorry to butt in but were a couple of the pics in your galley taken at coburg tafe? i think i remember seing it there and the background looks familiar. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| also sorry to but in but im startin the motorsport course at cobourg in july n jus wonderin if ne of u guys hav done it n what its like? |
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schnoods
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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If you have 15-20 grand, i'd be looking at a windsor, Dart Block, maybe 408 stroker or similar.
Keep it EFI, It will be easier tuning and will have manners.
Maybe 347 and a blower?
15-20 grand is a fairly decent budget for a motor, but you will have to look out for a gearbox and possibly a nine inch rear end too. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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You will have problems getting a 351W under an AU XR8 bonnet... In fact I doubt it will fit at all. You can get the 351 in and on the mounts, pipes may need to be custom. Your problem with be getting the car licensed, as you cannot fit an earlier spec engine (351W were discontinued by the time of the AU) to a later model car without full emmissions & ADR testing.
Your budget will be closer to the $20,000 end by the time you are done, depending on what you have to start with. No question a stroker 351 will make the power 'easier' than any 302-347.
PM me if you'd like a quote. |
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nannas_ed
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| ap2 wrote: | | hey nannas ed, sorry to butt in but were a couple of the pics in your galley taken at coburg tafe? i think i remember seing it there and the background looks familiar. |
geeezzzzzz you got a sharp eye to pick up kangan in those photo's lol. yeh i was there bout 2 years back. i remember the day i started there that car was stock as a rock and when i left it was how it was in the pics |
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TerroristGHIA
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My 427 is 16k in parts, then a further 10k to assemble it. It is a dart based 351W block. I know you can get a 427 similar to mine from Coast High Performance for about 18k. Then you have shipping and customs duty( about 20%) and installation.
Check their website http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/assembly_index.htm
Cheers
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