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arm79
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| frankieh wrote: | | Gogetta, we don't know the full story dude.. best not to jump to conclusions till we do. |
I agree with gogetta. It wouldn't have hurt them to pop in every now and then with an update. You know "having trouble finding wiring books for BA", "Need someone to fashion a bracket for BA throttle", etc, etc.
They've copped a flogging for 2 months off us with bad press. Now to pop up only when its finished and claim glory is a bit rough. |
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P100 Ute
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hopefully BPT has all the Ford books. theyre all out there.. EA -- > BF
having in pdf means it'll never rip a page or get finger prints all over it which is a blessing.. my normal ford manual has taken a beating :S dirty fingerprints and the binder broke so now its got cable ties holding it togethor.
just lad its finally complete. me and everyone were proberly on the edge of their seat.. i know i was.
also hoping that it was going to be running in the end and not get slipped under the carpet as a "cant do job" as what happened with dan's xr6 conversion in his ea.. sat in the workshop for ages and ended up not working out in the end which is a real shame.
maybe now he might rethink the Project EA.. this maybe the motorvation he needs..
my 2cents.
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| Dan sold the EA |
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fordman351
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| dilberto wrote: | | congrats man, i guess being the first car they have done, woulda been a frigging headache for them and not being dead set committed to it |
Yeah for sure, wasn't the easiest job in the world. At least they're doing the right thing by me, BPT are going to do a full tune on it to gain max performance out of the engine. Sweeeeet. I'm happy now, all i wanted was for the car to be started and run, now i know that can/has been done, i'm extremely happy. That's all my main concern was about, trying to get the thing running. |
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blacksabbath189
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now it has been done, no doubt many people will be going to BPT for the electrical side of the conversion...
- to get engine and fit yourself = 1K ( give or take abit )
- BPT to sort out the wiring = 1.5k
pretty cheap conversion in the end...
even if you have to wait a decade for it to get done... |
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fordman351
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| blacksabbath189 wrote: | | - to get engine and fit yourself = 1K ( give or take abit ) |
Phwoar, you'd be wanting a bit more in the budget, unless all the parts are stolen haha. I'd probably bank on about 2.5-3k at least to get all the mechanical side of things sorted. |
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DA22LE
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Hey,
Glad to hear some good news. A lot off effort for only 50 or thereabouts Kw. Having said that, at leats a turbo conversion is a bolt in/plug and play proposition.
Kudos Fordman, for your patience.....
ENJOY
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fordman351
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| DA22LE wrote: | | Having said that, at leatsT a turbo conversion is a bolt in/plug and play proposition. |
Bingo!  That was the aim of the game, sort of haha. I'm keeping future modification in mind. |
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| gogetta wrote: | must be a major relief for u fordman, i really hope it is only "another" week..
bpt i cant believe u have the nerve to chime in now....where were u 2 months ago? we didnt here peep!! and now you want the glory
i guess your glad u took the time with someone elses car instead of your own....
a major discount should be offered to compensate the poor guy....
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Hello There,
With projects like this you would want to make sure that it is done in sweat time rather than rush and end up with a crap job like happens out there.
I don't believe you are really in a position to comment about how we run our workplace.
When you have done the convertion yourself then come back and say something really worth while.
I was excited as much as Matt when it fired up first crank. There were a number of technichal constraints that had to be overcome to make things work correctly.
I am also sure that Matt would question why I was on the internet so much rather than spend time on his car if I had been posting every five minutes. We simply do not have the time to do what you do.
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congrats to bpt anyway i have said ny congrats, but im sure you did a good job, and am happy to say it again,
this was not a simple "bolt a new turbo on" or "change the rear discs" job, im sure they spent alot of time on it and are very happy with there acheivments (sorry i cant spell) |
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MICKYYYY
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: ecu |
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gogetta
Dude you have no idea when it comes to building a car especailly a conversion practically never done to a E series. Think about it wiring in a BA ECU to run everything plus all other things that had to be modified to make the car run correctly.
bpt motorsport
Hats of to you as your probably only 1 of very few who will wire up something like this and take the time to do the job right once and once only. I know that Sydney workshops wouldnt even touch a job like this as its to much of a headache and better for them to wire in a aftermarket ECU and tune it and charge u a arm and a leg.
fordman
Believe me you rather wait to get a job done once and done properly instead of getting a quick job and have crap wiring and probably have never ending problems, and from what you paid to get the job done is a pretty good price for a custom wiring job like that.
Again Great work and keep it up both Fordman & BPT Motorsports |
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Congarats on getting it running fordman. I love this thread, and if i had the cash i would've put the same donk in mine. Will be great to see more pics.  |
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fordman351
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Well, it is official. I have seen the car with my own eyes today, it does run and boy does it run beautifully! I'm over the moon! After all the tension of wheather the car will run or not, it really has been worth the wait and i can't thank the guys at BPT enough for what they have done.
Barry went through every single thing that has been done to the car and it really is mind bogglingly staggering what has been modified and created to get the show on the road and on top of it all, it looks like it rolled out of the factory. Attention to detail has NOT been overlooked, all wiring has been hidden or run in the original cable tubing or loomed up. A seperate diagnostic plug has been added to the interior fuse panel for future diagnostics and programming.
Umm, what else? The factory cruise control buttons will be working, very happy about that, air con is a bit iffy at the moment, as i don't have any gas lines installed, but it can be added down the line with ease, i'm not concerned about that, the BBM will still be operational and can be adjusted when it is activated by a flash tune or with the use of a DashDAQ which is incredibly awesome! That will be the next thing i save for, but at around $700 it isn't cheap, but it is a wicked piece of gear. New coolant and oil pressure senders will be used to get the factory gauges going, the electronic pedal is a working thing and is very responsive, all that needs to happen now, is a few minor electronic modifications to get the instrument cluster working and have the dash bolted back up again. I know there was a heap more things, but it's late and i can't remember them all right now haha.
There is a software system called 'Sniper Tuning' or something to that effect, where i can buy a ECU flash unit and the software and do my own tuning! That is quite appealing, but it's going to be expensive. Maybe something to look at when the budget builds up again. The budget has blown out a little bit more with some essental parts needing to be purchased, but without these parts the car will not run, it just means i'm going to have to save a little bit longer, but hopefully not too long.
But with all the stress and tension building up untill now, it really has been worth it. I have been in contact with barry over the phone occasionally to check up on things and make sure things are running smoothly, it's not as if BPT have been keeping me in the dark, but after seeing what has been going into the car pretty much all is forgiven, as there truly has been a phenominal ammount of research and testing to be done and i really do feel that BPT should be cut some slack. I really can't stress how much work has gone into this project.
My mate took some pictures and a video of the car running straight out of the extractors, sounds awesome haha. I should be getting them tomorrow, stay tuned......
Oh and a big thanks to everyone that has helped out with advice, knowlege and positive comments, it really has been valuable to me. Thanks again!
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| Good to see you're happy with it matt. Although I do think a bit more communication might not have gone awry (not necessarily posting on the forums, but a phone call to the owner of the project wouldn't hurt) but at the end of the day if your happy thats all that matters. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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The main thing is that you are happy with it mate, everything else is irrelevant.
Congrats! |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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glad to see you are happy with the result matt ,congrats
to bpt i think you guys have done a great job ,regardless what some other people have said ,they are entitled to their opinion,but when you have such a complex motor swap there is bound to be teething problems!!! |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: ba |
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| I think next mods should be liquid LPG then get a turbo setup and run some 10 second passes LOL |
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| omg great news cant wait for pics and vids |
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| got any pictures of the complete install maybe footage of the car running? what power do you expect general ba power or a tad less or a tad more? is the vct running right? |
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fordman351
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
The next addition will be a 'DashDAQ' http://www.dashdaq.com/features/whatis.htm , a full system data logger, gauge display amd fault finder, it basically plugs staright into the OBD2 connector which has been added to interior fuse panel.
I've never been a huge fan of gas, i say use the worlds oil and create greenhouse gasses haha! But a turbo system is totally plausible, but when that will be implemented is a different thing. The engine is running EXACTLY like it would in a BA, nothing has been compromised and VCT is running like normal. Think of the car as a BA with an EL shell. I'm hoping power will be a little better than stock as BPT are going to do a bit of a tune to it, but even if it is stock, i'm going to have at LEAST 40kw and 35nm up on the SOHC engine anyway, but if all this seems a but over the top for so little gain, think of the future possibilities 
I'll try and get the pictures off my mate today, the car isn't fully complete yet, the dash is still out and hanging around, but i did happen to get video footage of the car running and a bit of sound too. Stay tuned....
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