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Right - back to the tips
What to look for from a quick detailer or spray polish, the brands that deliver the goods and the dangerous ones
Obviously the ability to safely clean a lightly dusty car and to boost the protection of the sealant or wax on the paint, glass and wheels and enhance the shine is very important
But there is more
Slickness - we all love the feel of a clayed, polished and protected finish
Unfortunately with all car wash soaps, whether at the coin op wash, drive through touchless or home washing (even waterless), the slickness can easily be lost and the protection weakened
This is due to the ingredients in the soap
Even the best soaps which do not contain sodium laureth sulfate (sulfonic acid and salt) do it
The coconut derivate (cocoamido) and chemical surfactants (surface active agents) wash a small amount away each time
Manufacturers use sodium sulfate because it adds body and heaps of suds to the wash when mixed with water
Trouble is that long term use destroys most sealants and all waxes and dries out the paintwork
So to bring back the slickness, restore the protection and enhance the wetness, gloss, depth and colour richness, a quick detailer is used, either spray onto the car with the paint still wet after the rinse and dry the paint with a towel or spray it on the paint, spread over each panel and buff off using microfibre towels
These came to prominence in the 1990's with the now famous Meg's quick detailer #34
All detail sprays will help but there are serious performers on the market and alot of inferior copycats, eager to take some market share regardless of the nasty chemicals in their products
It is not that well known but a large percentage of detail sprays have absolutely no protection at all and lack slickness improving ingredients and don't even enhance the gloss either
They are just water, ethylene glycol (engine coolant), alcohol (strips wax and sealant) which is added to make the product flash dry really quickly so it is super easy for the customer to use
Also in almost all of them are silicone oils, not neccessarily a bad thing but the results don't last
The problem with fast drying quick detailers is that by the time you have sprayed the panel with product and started to spread it around the panel, it has flashed off and is useless
Even if you get some working time with it, it is never enough
Car enthusiasts want maximum shine but also products that deliver results that last, not dissappear in a few days or even a month
Now I am not going to list which ones are the bad ones, that would not be wise, I'll just inform you of what to look for
Read Manufacturers MSDS sheets and look at list of hazardous ingredients
Apply it and see how much improvement in slickness there is, any gloss improvement and if the next weeks wash turns out
After using a top quality detail spray, the following wash that you do should be easier and also after a rinse with water, the water should sheet off of the paint either slowly or very slowly, leaving only a fraction of water left on the surface
After a rain shower, the beads on the paint should be taller and be alot of them.
Each brands product has weaknesses and strengths in each area
THE TOP PERFORMERS & Why it is in the list
Driven to Perfection Quick Spray concentrate
Made from natural biodegradable ingredients including citrus, it has a strong percentage of the same sealant that is in the Driven Polymer polish and does not contain any alcohol, glycol or butyl
Is machine applyable via rotary polisher and foam pad (my preffered method), orbital polisher (supercheap orbital and terry bonnet (excellent) or foam pad or microfibre towel by hand
Via rotary, it's microfine polishing agents along with the cleaners, reslicken the paint, restore all lost shine, enhance colour, wetness and overall gloss and boost any sealant or wax
Will turn paint from shiny reflective to a liquid lustre.
Use it by rotary or orbital after each wash for six months and watch the paint turn to wet glass
But it's best attributes that make it superior to all others - it can be applied to any surface of a vehicle except fabric
Polish your glass, clean the dash, door cards, centre console, clear plastic, polish your chrome pieces
It can be used inside and out.
Apply to your favourite polish to make it easier to use
One 473ml bottle makes up to one gallon of product
Either full strength (adding to polishes)
473ml product, 500 to 1000ml water or 473ml product to 2 to 3 litres of water
it can be sprayed on and worked into the paint for up to one minute with foam pads or microfibre towels rather than a few seconds that it's competitors last
Protection is approximately two to three months
Attention all machine users - it removes fine to medium holograms left behind by amateur detailers using a rotary.
Prima Slick
http://www.detailersparadise.com/View.asp?Id=6511292005451212-691513519625
Although not diluteable like Driven, this in and out spray has no harmful ingredients, plenty of protection and a look all of its own (warm glow)
Totally safe for woodgrain, wheels, exterior trim, glass, vinyl, hard rubber, clear and coloured plastic and all types of paint
Slickness is sensational
Protection - two to four weeks
Aussie Gold Showroom glaze
The ultimate in protection with six months of silicone free sealant and good slickness
Gloss enhancing ingredients are not quite as good as Driven but combined together, you have the ultimate spray polish and sealant
Totally silicone free, paintable and hydrophobic, put this on by machine or by hand for an incredible increase in lustre, slickness and anti static performance
Can be used after each hand or machine polishing step to remove polish residue and enhance gloss some more
Once again, another of these wonder products that clean and polish tinted windows, interior surfaces and all exterior materials
http://www.aussiegoldcarcare.com.au/000_0040.JPG
All three of these products are available from Dream machines
A combo of 40 % driven, 40% aussie gold and 20% prima slick will provide you with the most pleasurable quick detailing experience and results
Dilute as desired or use at full strength
Quick spray - $35
Prima Slick - $28
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Aurora 98
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How many quick detail sprays do you know that can be mixed in with any polish and not make the polish coaggulate
I recently started mixing 50/50 Driven Polymer polish & sealant and full strength Driven quick spray
The result is more gloss, butter smooth application, no buffing off necessary, great sealant protection and less product is needed
Just buff on with rotary or by hand and watch the paint get wetter and wetter
The ease of use and slickness of quick spray combined with the gloss and protection of the polish
Finally, my company on the driven site
An official and sole Australian distributor of these products
Not someone buying it and reselling it without permission
http://www.driventoperfection.com/distributors.html |
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| hi matt,i just picked up a v8 fairlane for the dish washer,whats the best gear to clean the leather trims and seats.i read leatherett,is the autoglm leather cleaner any good? driven to learn--show me. |
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Howdy Hans
For leather I highly recommend Leatherique and Driven VRL
How bad is the leather?
If it's in good condition or even average, the Driven will revitalise that and leave a nice scent and dry to the touch finish
Dunno about autoglym, have not tried that
You should lightly work the product (either) into the leather with a terry covered foam pad (I have these) and are cheap)
Don't saturate the leather with product, apply to the pad and work in with circular motion then horizontal or vertical passes to finish off
Give it 15 mins then wipe down gently with microfibre towel (not the same ones that you use on paint)
Leatherique is killer for serious damaged leather and even those in average condition
Anything better than that and it's Driven that I recommend |
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New Product announcement
Through a new supplier (lovely people) in Panama city florida, I have access to the entire Lake Country product range and at discounted to wholesale pricing
The first of the new products coming to Dream Machines
CCS Euro Foam Hand polishing pads
Yellow (medium cut), Orange (light cut), Green (heavy polishing), White (light polishing), Black (finessing), Blue (finishing), Red (wax, sealant and detail spray application)
Each pad sold separately $8.00 each
4 pack bundle (yellow, orange, white, black)
$28.00
6 pack (yellow, orange, white, black, blue, red)
$40.00
PICS/INFO
http://www.properautocare.com/euhapoap.html
Pad and product suited to that pad
(ABRASIVES)
Yellow pad - Driven Extreme duty glass compound/Driven Finish Restorer/Prima Cut/menzerna Powergloss
Orange pad - Driven Extreme Duty & Finish Restorer/Prima Finish/Prima Swirl/Menzerna Intensive 85RD or PO91L
Green - Driven Finish Restorer/Prima Swirl/Menzerna Intensive PO91L
White - Prima Finish/Menzerna 106FF
Black - prima Finish/Prima Amigo/Menzerna 106FF or 85RD Finishing polish
Blue - Menzerna 85RD Finishing polish
(NON ABRASIVE)
Blue & Red - Prima Amigo
White, Black, Blue & Red - Driven Quick spray concentrate
White pad - Quick spray 1 litre mix
Black pad - Quick spray 2 litre mix
Blue pad - Quick spray 2.5 litre mix
Red pad - Quick spray 3 to 4 litre mix
Black, Blue or Red - Driven Auto Polish
GLARE SYSTEM (contact me for info and to order this system)
Yellow - Glare Zero & or Glare Knockout
Orange - Glare Knockout or Glare Micro Finish
(depends on amount of scratches)
Green - Glare Spider
White - Glare Professional Polish (to polish)
Black - Glare Professional Polish (to glaze)
Blue - Glare Professional Polish (to seal and protect) |
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| hi matt, can i use your Ultra hydrophobic drying aid on top of the driven detail spray? |
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| Which product was that, unless you mean waffle weave towel, I don't have a drying aid yet |
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hi matt,this one is yours,is it still available? i found a new use for prima swirl--polishing plastic headlights and light assys,they came up very well----no more yellowed headlights  started polishing the cooks car---hasnt seen polish in a long while,the clear coat is rough,but cleans up well so far--just started. |
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[quote="hans hartman"] | Aurora 98 wrote: | | hi matt,this one is yours,is it still available? i found a new use for prima swirl--polishing plastic headlights and light assys,they came up very well----no more yellowed headlights started polishing the cooks car---hasnt seen polish in a long while,the clear coat is rough,but cleans up well so far--just started. |
I did the same on my tail lights aswell with the prima swirl by rotary. i coated it with some sealant as well. Crystal crear. |
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Recharge is the new name of this product and is still in development
However Driven quick spray is very hydrophobic on it's own and can be used on a wet car before a rinse |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: Foam pads - the ultimate |
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For your polishing pleasure
Here are the ultimate hand polishing pads
$8.00 each or 4 for $28
All six colours for $40.00 - RRP $48.00
Yellow - medium cut
orange - light cut
white - heavy polish
green - light polish
black - finessing
blue - finishing/glazing
red - wax/sealant application, ultra fine glazing
Much easier on the hands and arms than those silly meguiars applicators and more scratch and swirl removal power than even those white and blue pads that I have sold in the past |
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Thanks to a FM regular, mr Hans Hartman, I've now got some more tips for you
If you want to get maximum optical clarity from your paintwork, spend a long time with the clay bar
He spends a tonne of time per panel, claying and claying and claying
I decided to give it a go and instead of spending one hour, am now spending up to three hours and my god the clarity of the two black cars that I did last week is unbelievable and the body feels like water. It's super super slick and silky
Also, Dream machines has joined forces with two other companies to create a new, very exciting group that will specialise in stocking the worlds best products, conduct detailing training clinics for enthusiasts and provide the best detailing services in Australia
Now back to the clay, we will be sourcing a new type of clay - Bilt hamber soft and regular
These two clay bars are superior to all others as you can use water as a lubricant and they dont fall to bits after several uses
Easy to knead as well |
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NEW TIPS
Why buying any bottle of polish won't give you the ultimate shine
CONTAMINANTS, SWIRL MARKS, SPIDER WEBS, ACID RAIN, DEFECTS, AUTO WASH MARRING
Contamination in the form of exhaust fumes, metal filings (industrial fallout from foundries), sulfuric acid rain and others.
These things that make paint feel gritty diffuse the light and hide the true gloss and colour
Once they are removed via a clay bar (bilt hamber or other brand) the clarity of the paint will be improved and ready to polish
The longer you clay, the clearer the paint will become, reflections will get sharper
Then it is time to polish the paint according to the condition of it
Some paint finishes of today are soft, medium or rock hard (german ceramiclear paints)
A japanese car is soft in most cases, australia - medium soft to medium hard
European - medium hard to rock hard
The contamination diffuses the light and Scratches, swirls, spiderwebs, acid rain and other blemishes make the light refract rather than reflect so the true lustre is again hidden away
See how the scratches hide the lustre
The reflection of that light should be crystal clear
After
Halogen light reflection (before)
AFTER
HSV ASTRA VXR
After three hour clay, Menzerna 106FF and 85RD finishing polishes by machine (will work as good by hand on a new car or paint in really good nick)
Roof reflection at Metro Holden
Wheels - the real thing and the door reflection
Only when the light is reflecting perfectly on the paint will the finish on your car be it's best
A 1992 to 2007 (BF II) paint finish is made from PPG 2K baked enamel
If the paint has serious scratches, anything from Menzerna Intensive polish and Powergloss, Prima Cut or swirl, Hi Temp Extreme cut plus or Driven to Perfection Finish Restorer will be needed to "LEVEL"
the paint by hand or machine
The best thing to do is to start at the lower end of the abrasive scale (menzerna 85RD, Prima Amigo or Finish) and a soft foam pad and work your way up (change pad before you change product) until the damage is removed
Once finished polishing and glazing (prima amigo, glare pro polish), apply your favourite sealant or wax
Light coloured cars require pure sealant for the light to radiate straight through (gives illusion of depth) whereas black cars can have sealant and wax
To get the best results from your polishes, use the correct pad and technique
We stock Lake country CCS euro foam hand pads in seven colored grades
Yellow (medium levelling), orange (light levelling), green (mild levelling), white (strong polishing), black (finish polishing), blue (jewelling/burnishing pad for maximum diamond finish), red (sealant glaze or wax application) |
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I have recently just gotten into washing the car frequently, and have learnt alot.
I have been through most polishes available in auto spares shops, and now only use mequires, mothers and my personal favourite turtle wax.
Will post some pics of my current get around car soon (BLACK jeep cherokee) which is a pain to keep clean
Turtle wax ftw, so easy to use, its effortless now!
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turtle wax ice smells good to.... for the first 10 minutes  |
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That is an excellent startup detailing product collection you have
If you ever wish to take it further and get the paint flawless and a saturated shine, let me know
Once you have used up your bottle of Meguiars Trim Detailer, try Trim Dream, my product will replace that and you will wish you bought that sooner |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: narrowing your product range |
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Do you have too many cleaning products on your garage shelves?
If so, perhaps I can help you get rid of some
1. Glass cleaner
In this day and age, quick detail sprays and spray sealants such as Aussie Gold Showroom sealer glaze, Driven to Perfection Quick Spray concentrate and Meguiars UQD are a far superior choice to ordinary old glass cleaner
No harmful butyl's, ammonia and rather than just clean glass, they protect it
Not all are safe on tinted windows, Aussie gold and Driven are totally safe on tint
2. Wheel cleaner
Many wheel cleaners are mostly acid based, great if you like cleaning concrete floors but not your precious wheels
Even safe wheel cleaners are alkaline and can effect certain types of wheels
The best way to eliminate the need to buy wheel cleaner is to clay bar, polish and apply a protective sealant to your wheels and then shampoo them before you wash your car (with separate sponges or mitts) or at the coin op car wash (don't use pre soak)
Once you have sealed them, just hand wash once a week or fortnight with your favourite body wash (my choice is the new improved Driven protective shampoo)
it is PH neutral (7.2) and contains a fine amount of sealant from the marine polish
Your wheels will stay clean for longer and easier washing is your reward
3. Trim care products
This is an easy one. Matts Magic Trim Dream is the answer to cutting out the need to buy Mothers back to black, Meguiars trim detailer, Autoglym bumper care or 07B rubber restorer, forever black and many other terrible dressings that run down your paint at the first rain shower that hits your car
Just ask millard, he has seen that first hand.
With trim dream you have a permanent solution to trim care, with just once in a blue moon reapplication of step 3 now and then for E series vehicles, your covered and won't have to worry about silicone oil or dye's running down your paintwork.
4. Waxes
Many are available, few are that much different
Carnauba waxes are a dinosaur now but still very much useable
The differences between all are minimal, choose a wax that compliments your cars colour
If it is metallic, try the higher end waxes as they do not mute the flakes as much or at all
if solid, a wax specially formulated for dark cars will suffice
The best wax is brazillian yellow, white carnauba (I have been told) is simply bleached yellow wax
If you are looking for a magnificent wax to make your paint come to life, don't bother
The shine comes from the preparation not the wax
The more prep you do the better the finish
Wax is just the icing on the cake
5. Polishes
Again like waxes, choose those that provide the shine properties that you want and that suit your finish
Clarity - Menzerna 106FF and 85RD
Super wetness - Ultra gloss superpolish, Driven marine sealant polish, Glare Pro Polish, Blackfire Gloss enhancing polish
Glass like Reflections - all four menzerna polishes by machine or Glare Knockout, Micro Finish, Spider and Professional Polish
Super rich colour - Prima Amigo, Aussie Gold Showroom glaze, Driven Quick spray
Depth - Menzerna IP, 106FF and 85RD (85rd twice) by machine
Limit your polishes to three to six
For instance - Prima Cut, Swirl, Finish and Amigo
Then a sealant polish like Driven marine polish or Glare Pro Polish
OR
menzerna Powergloss, Intensive Polish, 106FF and 85RD.
Then Driven marine polish, Glare, Toughseal step 1 and 2 or other brand sealants to protect the paint.
you will have all the abrasive cutters you may need and the non abrasive polishes and glazes to enhance the finish after the cutting or as I call it - LEVELING and the sealants to protect it
You may not need any levellers very often if at all but they will be there if you need them
6. Leather care/Interior cleaners
Three products are all that are needed
An environmentally safe Green earth cleaner/degreaser - Driven Multi surface cleaner concentrate is ideal for vinyl, rubber, plastic, woodgrain, velour, leather, fabric seats, glass (not tinted) and carpets as it does them all safely and conditions them very lightly - no drying out of the material like the traditional degreasers
Then a vinyl, rubber and leather conditioning and preserving lotion that is dry to the touch, never slippery or greasy and doesn't attract dust plus that softens the leather too and leaves a half matte - half satin finish
Driven VRL - everything it claims to do on the bottle it does and does brilliantly
Can even be used as a skin moisturiser if you don't have anything else around
Finally, an in and out spray to de dust dashboards, door skins and centre console plus provide protection for those surfaces
Driven Quick Spray, Prima Slick or Aussie Gold Showroom Sealer Glaze
All are totally safe for any surface. Will protect BA to BF falcon, Ford Territory and other branded vehicles hard and soft interior surfaces |
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