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PIMP_LTD
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 Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Factory speaker wires?? Which colour pos and neg? |
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Hey guys.
After my EB EF conversion, i'm currently fitting the factory premo headunit, and i am about to wire in my amp to the rear channels, and my new door speakers to the front channels.
The LF speaker wire colours are orange/light green and orange black
The RF speaker is grey/green and grey black
The LR is pink/green and pink/black
And the RR is blue/red and blue/black.
My question is, which is positve and which is negative???
I can't find it anywhere, not even in the factory manuals!
Thanks guys.
Andrew.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Simple, black is almost always earth/negative.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Cool, thats what i was hoping.
Thanks mate.
Andrew.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ive just wired in my 6x9's in the el and i joined the black striped cable from the pioneer wire to the black striped factory wire. i just thought that they matched. the pioneer wire with the black stripe goes to the positive on the speaker. i thought that if you wired the positives to the negatives that you wouldnt get any bass because it would be cancelled out or something but my speakers have bass... whats the go
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Yeah i'm still a little confused.
The old stereo in it (installed by previous owner) was using the black stripe in the cars wiring as the positive, and it sounded fine.
Yet every other stereo on the planet uses the black stripe as neg. I also put my multimeter on the wires while the swtereo was playing, and it said the black stripe in the car was positve when running off the factory headunit. ???
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| duderat wrote: | | ive just wired in my 6x9's in the el and i joined the black striped cable from the pioneer wire to the black striped factory wire. i just thought that they matched. the pioneer wire with the black stripe goes to the positive on the speaker. i thought that if you wired the positives to the negatives that you wouldnt get any bass because it would be cancelled out or something but my speakers have bass... whats the go |
That only applies if 1 speaker is wired out of phase, if they are all wired the same then you won't get cancellation.
The easy way to confirm the orientation of the black stripe is to simply use a AA battery (no bigger) and attach it to the speaker wiring in question and the wire attached to the + terminal is the positive wire if the cone moves out, if the cone moves in then the wire attached to the + terminal on the battery then that is the - wire.
Easy.....
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks outlaw,
i performed this, and turns out ford indeed used the black stripe as positive wire, why the f**K they did that i'll never know.
Confirmation also came from when i look at the dash tweeter wiring, the ford black stripe wire goes the the positive terminal on the pioneer tweeters.
So anyway, the factory unit is now wired into my new front speakers, and the rear channels are now driving my sub amp and sub, and it sounds good enough for a pretty much factory system.
Thanks guys.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Hello
I am kind of new to ford mods I have owned a ford for a week now, I am having problem wiring up the radio properly
This is my question my car is a ef Fairmont the original plug was removed and the wires joined there are a couple of wires not connected
Dose any one know that all the wires on the ef radio harness do?
Cheers
Tom
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The body is negative earth so if you wire them up properly it saves problems i.e. Popping noise when you adjust the volume (that is why I had to redo my radio the colours and positions were all wrong)
When crossing over speaker wires use +left rear and +right rear it kind of combines the sound when using a sub and an amp. Amps are wired up for that inside and will not (should not) blow. Doing this to a head unit might not be a good idea. Sub are normally isolated from the car using foam, plastic bracket or a sub box so there is no earthing
| dude rat wrote: | | I’ve just wired in my 6x9's in the el and I joined the black striped cable from the pioneer wire to the black striped factory wire. I just thought that they matched. The pioneer wire with the black stripe goes to the positive on the speaker. I thought that if you wired the positives to the negatives that you wouldn’t get any bass because it would be cancelled out or something but my speakers have bass... what’s the go |
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based on ef 94 and up
i found this for u guys it might help
Wiring for Low and Mid Series Decks
Main Wiring Plug - 12 Pins
Pin 1 Grey / Dark Green Positive (+) Speaker Line for the Right hand side Front speakers (Drivers Side)
Pin 2 Blue / Light Green Positive (+) Speaker Line for the Left hand side Front speakers (Passenger Side)
Pin 3 Brown Button Backlighting (Park Lamps power)
Pin 4 Dark Green / Yellow Constant Battery Voltage (+ Positive power)
Pin 5 Dark Blue / White Accessories Power (As taken from the Ignition switch)
Pin 6 Light Green Telephone Mute (Factory Telephone System)
Pin 7 Red / Dark Blue Power Antenna Output (Positive Trigger) Used to extend the power antenna
Pin 8 Dark Blue / Red Instrument Cluster LCD Backlight and Dimming Signal (Negative)
Pin 9 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 10 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 11 Blue / Black Negative (-) Speaker line for the right hand side Front speaker
Pin 12 Grey / Black Negative (-) Speaker line for the Left hand side Front Speaker
Secondary Wiring Plug - 8 Pins (Rear Speakers)
Pin 1 < !-space->
Pin 2 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 3 Pink / Dark Green Positive (+) Speaker Output for the Rear Left Hand (Passenger) Side Speaker
Pin 4 Pink / Black Negative (-) Speaker Output for the Rear Left Hand (Passenger) Side Speaker
Pin 5 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 6 Dark Blue / Red Positive (+) Speaker Output for the Rear Right Hand (Drivers) Side Speaker
Pin 7 Dark Blue / Black Negative (-) Speaker Output for the Rear Right Hand (Drivers) Side Speaker
Pin 8 < !-space-> < !-space->
Wiring for High Series (Premium) Decks (FAIRMONT GHIA, FAIRLANE series EF / EL / NF / NL / DF / DL
Pin 1 Grey / Dark Green Positive (+) Speaker Line for the Right hand side Front speakers (Drivers Side)
Pin 2 Blue / Light Green Positive (+) Speaker Line for the Left hand side Front speakers (Passenger Side)
Pin 3 Brown Button Backlighting (Park Lamps power)
Pin 4 Dark Green / Yellow Constant Battery Voltage (+ Positive power)
Pin 5 Dark Blue / White Accessories Power (As taken from the Ignition switch)
Pin 6 Light Green Telephone Mute (Factory Telephone System)
Pin 7 Red / Dark Blue Power Antenna Output (Positive Trigger) Used to extend the power antenna
Pin 8 Dark Blue / Red Instrument Cluster LCD Backlight and Dimming Signal (Negative)
Pin 9 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 10 < !-space-> < !-space->
Pin 11 Blue / Black Negative (-) Speaker line for the right hand side Front speaker
Pin 12 Grey / Black Negative (-) Speaker line for the Left hand side Front Speaker
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for your reply will have a look tommrrow make sure it is rite
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| so how did ya go ?????????
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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i wired it up rite but i have 3 extra wires left
i will take a picture everything sounds rite but it is these extra wires and it i strongly belive there speaker wires not the phone wire or power ant it is strange i will take a picture
picture is worth 1000 words and then try and see if i can post it here
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i dont know why they just didnt get the addapter wires from strathfield or jb
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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still having problem as the colours of my loom don't match the ones listed above
my car is a 94 ef could it be posible that i have ed loom for the radio???
this is what i have and what is connected
Grey / green = (+) right hand front
Grey/ black = (-) right hand front
Blue / red (1 silver dot) = (+) right hand rear
Blue / black = (-) right hand rear
Orange / green= (+) left hand front
Orange / black = (-) left hand front
Pink / green = (+) Left hand rear
Pink / black = (-) Left hand rear
Red / blue = unknown (connected to power ant I think)
The next 3 wires are thicker then the rest
Green / yellow = Power
Blue / white = Power
Black (2 silver dots) = power
Brown (1 silver dot) = unknown
Light green (2 silver dots) = unknown
Blue / red (2 silver dots) = unknown
There is a 8 pin plug near it too I think it might go to the back there all thin wires like the speaker wire
1 = brown
2 = green / yellow
3 = grey / black
4 = not connected
5 = blue / red
6 = blue / black
7 = red
8 = orange / green
everything appears to be connected but i still nave no dash speakers
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now that i have the wires all hooked up and the radio adjusted corectly the speakers on the dash work it was just in the adjustment
so it turns out i did it right the first time just not adjusted rite
but the strange thing is the incorrect collours on hthe factory loom but as i have listed them i hope it will help someone else
thankyou to eveyone who replayed to my questions
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