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galapogos01
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I hope this thread and the site are just the start of it to be honest 
will be interested in seeing your results, make sure you post them back to me so we can share them! |
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frankieh
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I have been detailing my work on installing EL computer to stealth mounting the supercharger etc.. so yes, I will detail any changes I make to the ECU as well.
have a lot of learning to do in that regard though. |
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Masier
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Jason
Any ideas which map to start playing with for a xh ute?? I want to tweak it for LPG (it's a eec iv) will pull the computer out tomorrow to see what it is.
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galapogos01
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Masier,
If it were me, i'd look at putting an EL ECU into it, so you can use the EL Tickford LPG binaries (or at least the timing tables from them). If you use the EL Tickford binary you can look at wiring up the Fuel Select input so you can switch timing maps for petrol/lpg just like the factory setup.
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snap0964
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Masier wrote: | | Any ideas which map to start playing with for a xh ute?? I want to tweak it for LPG (it's a eec iv) will pull the computer out tomorrow to see what it is. |
All XH's are EEC V.
| galapogos01 wrote: | | If it were me, i'd look at putting an EL ECU into it, so you can use the EL Tickford LPG binaries (or at least the timing tables from them). If you use the EL Tickford binary you can look at wiring up the Fuel Select input so you can switch timing maps for petrol/lpg just like the factory setup. |
They do work well with aftermarket LPG systems like Impco. |
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Masier
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| snap0964 wrote: | | Masier wrote: | | Any ideas which map to start playing with for a xh ute?? I want to tweak it for LPG (it's a eec iv) will pull the computer out tomorrow to see what it is. |
All XH's are EEC V. |
Are you sure? I thought that the base model 6 had the eec-iv. How I can check for sure?? |
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Masier
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| galapogos01 wrote: | Masier,
If it were me, i'd look at putting an EL ECU into it, so you can use the EL Tickford LPG binaries (or at least the timing tables from them). If you use the EL Tickford binary you can look at wiring up the Fuel Select input so you can switch timing maps for petrol/lpg just like the factory setup.
Jason |
But where is the fun in that??  |
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frankieh
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How cool would it be to get scannerpro http://scannerpro.net/
working with ECC V ECU's..
the EL dash can get the info.. why does that not mean it can work with scannerpro? |
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Masier
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off the ecu off the ute
eec-iv
5dac
95da-12a650-ac
xh II 5 speed manual is what it's in. |
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snap0964
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| Masier wrote: | | snap0964 wrote: | | Masier wrote: | | Any ideas which map to start playing with for a xh ute?? I want to tweak it for LPG (it's a eec iv) will pull the computer out tomorrow to see what it is. |
All XH's are EEC V. |
Are you sure? I thought that the base model 6 had the eec-iv. How I can check for sure?? |
Don't believe the airbox cover. They all run thermo fans and have a knock sensor.
| Masier wrote: | off the ecu off the ute
eec-iv
5dac
95da-12a650-ac
xh II 5 speed manual is what it's in. |
It'll be EEC V. The EL Tickford LPG ECU has EEC IV on it's sticker, but again, it's EEC V.
I think it's because the true EEC V ECU's should have 104 pins (e.g. EF/EL V8's), where the XH and EL I6's have 60 pins. |
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| hey matey just wondering if you could help me out, are you able to retune the eb series one ecu, what ive done is jammed a ed engine with turbo running 10 pound boost into an 1965 falcon, or would it be better to go el ecu an get that retuned thanks |
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DJ_Brown
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Is there any reason this wont work with EEC-IV?? All the hardward on the moates site says EEC-IV/EEC-V??
Is there any reason i cant tune an EA ECU? Cheers
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| All Aussie EEC's up to the AU were EECIV, and the EECV's were actually 4 and a halves, 256 vs 56k bins. |
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galapogos01
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A small update: i received my first sample of the locally built J3 chips and hope to test it this weekend. It can switch up to 8 tunes!
To answer the questions...
| xpnutter wrote: | | hey matey just wondering if you could help me out, are you able to retune the eb series one ecu, what ive done is jammed a ed engine with turbo running 10 pound boost into an 1965 falcon, or would it be better to go el ecu an get that retuned thanks |
an EL ECU will do the trick. will be very easy to get it running.
| DJ_Brown wrote: | Is there any reason this wont work with EEC-IV?? All the hardward on the moates site says EEC-IV/EEC-V??
Is there any reason i cant tune an EA ECU? Cheers
David |
if you want to disassemble the binary of an EA ECU to produce a definition, the hardware and software will work. if not, plug in an EL ECU as suggested. they are cheap and it works already. why the stupid question? its already been answered! |
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DJ_Brown
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Cheers for the reply.
the only reason im not running an EL ECU in my EA is because it doesnt have smart-lock. Also, i have a manual EA, with an EB series 1 non-smartlock manual ECU.
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frankieh
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I have an EL ECU running my ED motor with log manifold and it hunts a tiny bit at idle, but other than that it is better than the original for low end torque....
Once it's all ready, I'll be putting the blown EL motor in, BBM and all (though the bbm switch will be locked no doubt) and I'll be trying a modified Xr6 bin as detailed by Galapogos01 (who really should still make a tute for all the steps he took to fix his hunting problem including everything from plugging in the hardware to editing the table with lots of screenshots.. )
DJ Brown, I didn't have smartlock either.. so I picked up a smartlock bypass for 80 bucks on ebay.. works a treat. |
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problem is where would you start when sorting probs.
Here is your first step, plug in EMU, Ostrich, Pull dump, go to 0X 22000 and start from there, oh sorry true EEC-IV is 0X 2000, start building your def file.........6 months at least you have something that kinda resembles a GUI tuning tool. |
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