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twr7cx
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| twason wrote: | | BenJ wrote: | So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?
This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.
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Correct, as for the ECU I am going to install it and connect it to the BBM output to see how it behaves at idle and low rpm, if OK then thats it otherwise I will add in an RPM switch to kill it again below 1800 RPM. |
If you use either the BBM output of the RPM switch does that save the hassles of integrating the AU wiring into the EF? |
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twason
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| twason wrote: | No ISC as yet (very observent of you). I won't need a VCT ECU to drive the VCT mechanism, I am just going to hang it across the BBM output.
I think there is gain to be had by fitting the tickford head (HP or VCT) There is a noticable difference in the chamber from the standard head. |
Here is how I have mounted the ISC it is neat and out of the way. |
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twason
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| twr7cx wrote: | | twason wrote: | | BenJ wrote: | So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?
This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.
BenJ |
Correct, as for the ECU I am going to install it and connect it to the BBM output to see how it behaves at idle and low rpm, if OK then thats it otherwise I will add in an RPM switch to kill it again below 1800 RPM. |
If you use either the BBM output of the RPM switch does that save the hassles of integrating the AU wiring into the EF? |
Now its running I don't think its worth doing anything more than using the BBM output to be honest, works good from idle to redline no need to cut it below 1800. No need to do the AU ECU conversion to get this. |
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twr7cx
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| twason wrote: | | Here is how I have mounted the ISC it is neat and out of the way. |
Nice neat job - thumbs up for thinking outside the box. I wouldn't have thought to put the hose fittings into it! |
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twr7cx
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| twason wrote: | | twr7cx wrote: | | twason wrote: | | BenJ wrote: | So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?
This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.
BenJ |
Correct, as for the ECU I am going to install it and connect it to the BBM output to see how it behaves at idle and low rpm, if OK then thats it otherwise I will add in an RPM switch to kill it again below 1800 RPM. |
If you use either the BBM output of the RPM switch does that save the hassles of integrating the AU wiring into the EF? |
Now its running I don't think its worth doing anything more than using the BBM output to be honest, works good from idle to redline no need to cut it below 1800. No need to do the AU ECU conversion to get this. |
So all up it's fairly easy to do then - just change the heads over and then connect the VCT to the BBPM output? |
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twason
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| twr7cx wrote: | | twason wrote: | | twr7cx wrote: | | twason wrote: | | BenJ wrote: | So at the moment you have the non VCT AU engine in and are changing to the VCT head? Are you running a Ford ECU or using an aftermarket ECU?
This sounds intersting. Looking forward to the progress info.
BenJ |
Correct, as for the ECU I am going to install it and connect it to the BBM output to see how it behaves at idle and low rpm, if OK then thats it otherwise I will add in an RPM switch to kill it again below 1800 RPM. |
If you use either the BBM output of the RPM switch does that save the hassles of integrating the AU wiring into the EF? |
Now its running I don't think its worth doing anything more than using the BBM output to be honest, works good from idle to redline no need to cut it below 1800. No need to do the AU ECU conversion to get this. |
So all up it's fairly easy to do then - just change the heads over and then connect the VCT to the BBPM output? |
Yep. Just need all the parts. |
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| twason wrote: | | Mitch_ wrote: | may 99 onwards is AUI Update....
Smartsheild  |
Yes, but is the AU series 1 ECU capable of doing both Smartlock and Smartshield or is it one or the other? |
The Smartshield PCM has a different part no. to the Smartlock one. I see you are happy with the results but if you needed to fit the AU VCT PCM, you would need one with a part number of RWR2T-12A650-Dx, where x is any letter from A to D. The variation in the last letter corresponds to the flash revision level AFAIK, you can get any and they will work or can be flashed to -DD spec. This is the Smartlock, VCT, manual part no, auto's are -FA through -FE. The corresponding catch codes for the manual PCM's are WTDA through WTDD.
The VCT PCM you have ATM shouid be RWR2T-12A650-NA or -NB (WTNA or WTNB) for a manual. If it's coded RWR2T-12A650-PA through -PC (WTPA through WTPC) it's for an autobox. If you have an autobox one, we need to talk! |
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twason
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sly wrote: | | twason wrote: | | Mitch_ wrote: | may 99 onwards is AUI Update....
Smartsheild |
Yes, but is the AU series 1 ECU capable of doing both Smartlock and Smartshield or is it one or the other? |
The Smartshield PCM has a different part no. to the Smartlock one. I see you are happy with the results but if you needed to fit the AU VCT PCM, you would need one with a part number of RWR2T-12A650-Dx, where x is any letter from A to D. The variation in the last letter corresponds to the flash revision level AFAIK, you can get any and they will work or can be flashed to -DD spec. This is the Smartlock, VCT, manual part no, auto's are -FA through -FE. The corresponding catch codes for the manual PCM's are WTDA through WTDD.
The VCT PCM you have ATM shouid be RWR2T-12A650-NA or -NB (WTNA or WTNB) for a manual. If it's coded RWR2T-12A650-PA through -PC (WTPA through WTPC) it's for an autobox. If you have an autobox one, we need to talk! |
Thanks Sly for this priceless information, I will check what numbers I have but it is a manual ECU that I know. BTW the catch code I have is WTLB - I assume non VCT XR6. |
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twason
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Well the part number is WR2T-12A650-LB - any idea if it is smartlock or shield? |
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Will an AU VCT head fit on an EL motor? I know I'd need the head from gasket up and tappet cover down, but it would fit fine right?
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twason
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| frankieh wrote: | Will an AU VCT head fit on an EL motor? I know I'd need the heard from gasket up and tappet cover down, but it would fit fine right?
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If an AU head fits on an EL then Yes I would think seeings as people use an AU head gasket in E series all the time. But you need the AU rocker gear ect.... |
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cilkorules
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: i am currently upgrading to AU vct motor |
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i am currently upgrading to AU vct motor
from the au intek motor non vct.
i have it going into a AU model falcon
am i going to run into any snags or problems fitting it myself
this smart lock or smartshield you were talking about is that going to cause me problems or am i fine using a Au vct loom to plug straight into vct ecu
my au is a series 2 .
motor un sure what year it is from as of yet still working on this...
any help ful info that may help me...???
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Re: i am currently upgrading to AU vct motor |
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| cilkorules wrote: | i am currently upgrading to AU vct motor
from the au intek motor non vct.
i have it going into a AU model falcon
am i going to run into any snags or problems fitting it myself
this smart lock or smartshield you were talking about is that going to cause me problems or am i fine using a Au vct loom to plug straight into vct ecu
my au is a series 2 .
motor un sure what year it is from as of yet still working on this...
any help ful info that may help me...???
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If you are smartshield and the donar ecu is smartshield then just a trip to ford on a tow truck at the end to get it programmed, if both are smartlock then you are lucky, any other combination will not work. Anyway just need to do what I did and use the BBM output to trigger the VCT. |
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| So in completly simple terms - if you go to a wrecker and find an AU with a VCT head you can rip the head off and put it straight on your e-series and away you go? |
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twr7cx
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| can't wait to get my donk back from Joe and see how it goes with the VCT. |
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Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon
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I am really interested in the Au ECU into EF senario.
10% fuel consumption improvement is a winner.
I have a dual fuel AU1 ECU and I am thinking of trying it If it is a straight swap. |
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twason
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| Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon wrote: | I am really interested in the Au ECU into EF senario.
10% fuel consumption improvement is a winner.
I have a dual fuel AU1 ECU and I am thinking of trying it If it is a straight swap. |
I have the same ECU that I am intending to install..... one day. Its not a direct swap but it is do-able with some pin swapping. |
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twason
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| twr7cx wrote: | | can't wait to get my donk back from Joe and see how it goes with the VCT. |
Taking a while is it not? |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Rick's EF Fairmont Wagon wrote: | I am really interested in the Au ECU into EF senario.
10% fuel consumption improvement is a winner.
I have a dual fuel AU1 ECU and I am thinking of trying it If it is a straight swap. |
eh, how do u figure that??? |
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The AU has true sequential injection not bank fire. this results in a 10% fuel saving.
AFAIK the EF is wired up to suit and the AU having the same coil pack should be very close to an ECU swap.
I just need the full Engine loom diagrams for both and I can start experimenting. In fact since I have a spare EF car. I have the loom to work on. I might have to get a loom from and AU and just fit that instead? |
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