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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah just stall it out, VL's are slow u will win.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ok ok go to www.shiftkits.com.au and get a fully adjustible shift kit for about $130 and then u'l kill him and snap seconds hard but make shure u put a trans cooler on it it helps
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm how about a VS auto????


Beat a VL turbo the other day by s**t!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets all race our stock heaps of s**t.

"but man, wat if i got a 6' pod filter it would be fully sick bro."
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISQUIK wrote:
lets all race our stock heaps of s**t.

"but man, wat if i got a 6' pod filter it would be fully sick bro."

Haha, its funny, but its all relative really, a brand new commodore is a lower middle-class persons Rolls Royce, to his son, their new 15 year old EA as their first car is the ducks guts; and it is cos they dont know any better.
I put a pod on my 92 Magna when i was 18 icon_razz.gif
It was so funny, this totally s**t car with a pod, the air induction noise sounded rediculous and it went through 30Litres in 100Km's because the IAT sensor in the magna's cant measure circular flowing air.
-Wow i totally just drifted off-
Even Pryoary's car is s**t, compared to a TT 911 to a multi millionaire, but to all of us its totally awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

circular flowing air. rofl. What's an IAT sensor got to do with air flow - it's a temperature sensor. Unsure on the magna's but it's probably in a place far enough up the intake system that any flow changes would be normalised by the shape of the various other components around. (manifold, throttle body)

(Wish I was a mod......)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, it wasnt the IAT, but definately a sensor not being able to measure the circular flowing air.
It was a common problem, i remember reading that it was the reason why K&N brought out the rectangle filter for the magna's.

"The fitment of a traditional rampod cone / round shaped filter causes a swirling action of air which in any other application is beneficial to the air flow of the vehicle. Unfortunately this swirling action promotes a bad running problem on 90% of Mitsubishi's"
http://www.fastmagna.com/tech/tech1.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol still haven't dragged.

His car is running extremely poor.

He dragged my mates 1987 Camry auto 2.0 with a whopping 385 000k's on it and only won by a tiny bit.

I raced the same camry up to 90k's from stop and won by 15 car lengths!

I'll report back if anyone is still interested.

I looked over his car today and made a little bit of progress.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ILLaViTaR wrote:

I raced the same camry up to 90k's from stop and won by 15 car lengths!


15 car lengths? did you have a tape measure to make sure it was 15?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smoke_ wrote:
ILLaViTaR wrote:

I raced the same camry up to 90k's from stop and won by 15 car lengths!


15 car lengths? did you have a tape measure to make sure it was 15?


maybe 14.5?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found my EF shifts better in economy with foot flat to the floor, if its in power it revs out too hard as its changing, econ mode it seems to shift just right and not rev too high... and i always just leave it in D although id put it back in 3 for the drags...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: VL ED Reply with quote

A stock VL manual will have no problems beating you! They are lighter rev freer have a 5spd with better gear and diff ratios. 1/4 mile times for a stock VL are still faster than ED. I only just bearly beat an auto VL in my 164kw EL and ive beat many EA-Ds.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be something wrong with your car then, i can beat those things shifting at 4000rpm.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

either way it would be like watching paint dry zzz zzz zzz zzz zzz
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: VL ED Reply with quote

ghia97 wrote:
A stock VL manual will have no problems beating you! They are lighter rev freer have a 5spd with better gear and diff ratios. 1/4 mile times for a stock VL are still faster than ED. I only just bearly beat an auto VL in my 164kw EL and ive beat many EA-Ds.


an ED in good nick with a decent driver will beat a VL with the same. yes they are lighter, and yes they have better take off ratio, but they bog down at about 80 kmh. this is where the party has just got underway in the ED, (starts to haul at about 50 kmh). Vl will take the start and the ED will be even by halfway, infront on the line by half to a full length.

those VL turbo's arnt much chop stock, when i was in qld with the EB they were never an issue, even from standing start where they should have been. and believe me, there are a lot of VL turbo's in qld. even the super hot ones wenrt overly worying because by the time they built boost, you were backing off coz speeds were getting up lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a stock ef manual should sit right next to a stock vl turbo, they're only 150kw and ran a 15.5? from factory.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

an ED auto will get raped by a manual VL easy. if you wanna beat a Vl. just get an even quicker turbo VL
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stock ED's must be slow as s**t then, i can wip VL turbos quite easy in mine and even if they are boosted high, they have to catch me, and by that time i have already backed off.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mate has a auto ed with 2.5 exhaust and extractors only and flogs any commodore up to and including VT, VX and similar. The only things that worry him is the V8's. All VL's he's come up against are left for dead. hell he would beat me and my EA manual would flog VT and VX, VY 6 cylinders.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New dude;
Just find a nice quiet bit of road and practice stalling her up.
You don't need to blast through 150km or anything stupid.
Just practice stalling it up and ripping up to 60 or so.
Stalling an auto isn't as easy as it sounds when your on your L's / new driver / no auto experience.

s**t, I remember my fist time stalling up an auto for a s**t hot launch (dad's old VN when I was 18) - I didn't have enough pressure on the brake pedal and the bastard thing took off anyway...luck nothing was coming the other way...

So your better off learning these things somewhere nice and quiet.

As for ED vs VL - if they were both stock. Both in equally good (poor???) condition, both auto, both driven similarly, then my money would be on the VL until around 70km (by bugger all, mind you), then the ED would take over.

A manual ED would punish the VL both off the mark and anywhere on the tacho.

But then, It doesn't really matter does it? Becuase even if the VL was slightly quicker - the ED is the better car.
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