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EL odometer "average l/100 and inst fuel" ?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: EL odometer "average l/100 and inst fuel" ? Reply with quote

Has anyone else heard of this trick? Is it possible to dispaly the average and inst. fuel useage on a standard El odometer??

I'm a newb so they might just be rattling my cage....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh it can be done...

with ign off hold reset trip button for 10 secs switch to on press 3 times hold on 3rd till man with seatbelt disappears then release.

the odo will flash "FORD"

press button to cycle through all different aspects theres a doco here on it
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

it sure can b done...

i did it 2 mine and wat a mind-blow.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its fun to see how quick increments ur speedo goes up in digital mode icon_twisted.gif lol
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
0, 12, 30, 127, 168,

hahaha

if only i was looking at the road at that speed lol
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some pics that I took....

(I posted this info in this thread as well http://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=69911&start=20)

I've tested the service dash in my EL ghia I6 and my Uncles EF fairmont I6, both show the same info

screen number is the number in the top left of the lcd. Below is some screenshots that I just took, hope it helps...
(NOTE: all screenshots with engine OFF)

Blank screen - flashes ford after a few seconds


Screen 1
Top Line: number with L after it (unbuffered - shake the car, fuel level will move)
Bottom Line: Unbuffered sender resistance


Screen 2
Top Line: Blank
Bottom Line: Engine coolant temp in **.* degrees


Screen 3
Top Line: Engine RPM **** (4 numbers)
Bottom Line: Vehicle speed KM/HR


Screen 4
Top Line: Oil pressure in BAR to one decimal point
Bottom Line: Battery/Alternator voltage to one decimal point


Screen 5
Top Line: Instant fuel consumption in ltrs/100kms
Bottom Line: Current instant fuel consumption


Screen 6 - Values here are used to calculate your trip computer
Top Line: Fuel used since Trip Avg L/100 Reset (x 0.1L)
Bottom Line: Kms Travelled since Trip Avg L/100 Reset


Screen 7 - Used for fuel gauge
Top Line: Fuel level (buffered) in litres
Bottom Line: Buffered sender resistance


Screen 8
Top Line: Blank
Bottom Line: Gear selection - Autos P, R,N,D,3,2,1; Manuals ??? not tested


Screens 9 to 16, ford service numbers

Screen 17, lights up all parts including wiper bottle and service icon

Screen 18, no lights

This screen stays on forever unless you go for a drive over 2hrs.

Hows that! icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great guys! Many thanks as I need to see why my EL is chewing through the petrol.
This way I can keep an eye on the inst. fuel as I go through and make the changes/adjustments from cold air inlets to new leads etc...

The cars purr's like a kitty, can spin on take-off etc(Auto wagon)but drinks like a sponge for now..

Many Thanks to all!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

putonpaint wrote:
That's great guys! Many thanks as I need to see why my EL is chewing through the petrol.
This way I can keep an eye on the inst. fuel as I go through and make the changes/adjustments from cold air inlets to new leads etc...

The cars purr's like a kitty, can spin on take-off etc(Auto wagon)but drinks like a sponge for now..

Many Thanks to all!


No problems

Just curious, what is your ltrs/100km at the moment?
If its 11 to 14.5, thats pretty normal...for normal driving.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that FairmontXR6 ...missed the question.
Just on kms Vs Litres its running at about 15L/100 kms.

This is a huge jump up from my last wagon, EF ported, stage 2 Wade Cam with double shims , high flow cat, 3" system, Genie extractors and a high flow cold air intake.

The EL drives very well but I am starting to suspect the injectors (188K now).
If I remember right the ECU can compensate for problems and inturn masks any noticeable idle issues, whick kinda makes it harder to isolate individual faults, electrical or fuel.

Will take a Screen 6 reading if I remember soon and get a more precise fuel useage!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

putonpaint wrote:
Sorry about that FairmontXR6 ...missed the question.
Just on kms Vs Litres its running at about 15L/100 kms.

This is a huge jump up from my last wagon, EF ported, stage 2 Wade Cam with double shims , high flow cat, 3" system, Genie extractors and a high flow cold air intake.

The EL drives very well but I am starting to suspect the injectors (188K now).
If I remember right the ECU can compensate for problems and inturn masks any noticeable idle issues, whick kinda makes it harder to isolate individual faults, electrical or fuel.

Will take a Screen 6 reading if I remember soon and get a more precise fuel useage!


No problems icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

seeing as its the topic...wat are u all gettin L/100 im getting 8.3L/100 pretty resonable considering my motor's almost 300,000
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

much more rewarding adding a trip computer.

My average is 12.2
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

GTO13F wrote:
seeing as its the topic...wat are u all gettin L/100 im getting 8.3L/100 pretty resonable considering my motor's almost 300,000

EFs get the best economy, usually 10 to 12 city cycle.
ELs get 12 to 14 city cycle
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahah. Through the trip comp I installed I get 16L/100K.

All of my driving is stop start and whilst I don't have my foot to the floor or spin the wheels, I don't really take off particularly slowly.

My engine has 120 000 ks on it.

Now that you mention it... I have noticed a very rich fuel smell when I get out of the car in the last couple of weeks (though the L/100k has never been below 16 in the time I've had the trip comp).

I'll run the diag mode on the odo... though I'd assume that I'd get the same L/100 data considering the trip computer is wired to the cluster.

Any suggestions as to what could cause my high fuel consumption (apart from my driving) on a relatively low KMs car that has been serviced regularly and is exhibiting no other problems except:

Ticking noise on start up... goes away when engine is warm (I'm assuming oil is to blame for that one)

Fuel smell strong enough for the missus to notice when she got out of my car in the garage the other day.

Cheers boys.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long has it been since the trip computer was reset?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My average is always about 10.6 to 11l per 100. This is mostly round town with the odd squirt.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurfurst wrote:
Hahah. Through the trip comp I installed I get 16L/100K.

All of my driving is stop start and whilst I don't have my foot to the floor or spin the wheels, I don't really take off particularly slowly.

My engine has 120 000 ks on it.

Now that you mention it... I have noticed a very rich fuel smell when I get out of the car in the last couple of weeks (though the L/100k has never been below 16 in the time I've had the trip comp).

I'll run the diag mode on the odo... though I'd assume that I'd get the same L/100 data considering the trip computer is wired to the cluster.

Any suggestions as to what could cause my high fuel consumption (apart from my driving) on a relatively low KMs car that has been serviced regularly and is exhibiting no other problems except:

Ticking noise on start up... goes away when engine is warm (I'm assuming oil is to blame for that one)

Fuel smell strong enough for the missus to notice when she got out of my car in the garage the other day.

Cheers boys.


Has the Oxygen sensor been replaced before? If not, you might want to invest in a new one...that's the only thing I can think of if the car is running fine, just rich.

At its worse, which was about 350km metro, and 100km highway, was about 13L/100km. At it's best, which was only highway...about 9L/100km. 50/50, about 11L/100km

phong =P~
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so once you get the lcd display going you can start the car and drive around yes? also how do you get it back to just the odo?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duderat wrote:
so once you get the lcd display going you can start the car and drive around yes? also how do you get it back to just the odo?

Just hold the odo button down.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phongus wrote:


Has the Oxygen sensor been replaced before? If not, you might want to invest in a new one...that's the only thing I can think of if the car is running fine, just rich.

At its worse, which was about 350km metro, and 100km highway, was about 13L/100km. At it's best, which was only highway...about 9L/100km. 50/50, about 11L/100km

phong =P~


Cheers for the tip, mate, it hasn't been replaced before. I'll get onto that asap.
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