Home |  Forums |  Search |  My Profile |  Chat  Photo Gallery |  Events Calendar |  Technical Documents  No messages |  New Posts |  Watched Topics |  Register   signs of a buggered head gasket? Goto page 1, 2  Next          Forum Index -> 6 Cylinder Workshop Latest ratings Highest-ranked posts Highest-ranked topics Highest-ranked posters   lockz Fordmods Stock as a Rock Posts: 125 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: signs of a buggered head gasket? my cars coolant is magically disappearing , i cant find a visable leak , the coolant goes from 'max' to 'empty' in the space of 5 minutes driving. someone surggested to me the head gasket my be f#$ked , what do u think? Back to top 4.9 EF Futura Moderator Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia View User Gallery (37) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Theres only a few places it can go - into oil, into combustion chamber or leak out somehere. So its not leaking.... Any 'milky' reside on the bottom of the oil filler cap? How's it run? I would have thought if that much coolant were entering the combustion chamber the engine wouldnt be running that well. Back to top XRFan101 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 3610 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Victor Harbor SA, Australia View User Gallery (22) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Perform a pressure test on the radiator as well, you might be able to pin point where the coolant is going Sure you havent got water/ residue coming out the exhaust? Back to top XGPANELVAN Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 698 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Wellington New Zealand View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: yeah, what 4.9 said, plus if its bad enough u will hear water boiling and popping sounds after u stop the engin after a while of running .. but milky looking s**t under the oil cap is usually the best way to tell i find Back to top pepsimax Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:39 Posts: 400 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: kirra QLD, Australia View User Gallery (4) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: i your looseing that much so quick your sump would be full of water by now or you'd have one of the cleanest cylinders in the world.. mate look over the top of the motor then ge underneath,,it's going somewhere for sure. mine coolant used to go down the exhaust but i only lost the over flow tank after 8 hours driving.. Back to top XGPANELVAN Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 698 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Wellington New Zealand View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: yea reading that a bit more carefully, goes from full to empty in the space of 5 minutes? maybe a split hose?? has to be going somewhere, that much water in that amount of time isnt going to be getting into the head even if u had no gasket at all, aint possible Back to top XRFan101 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 3610 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Victor Harbor SA, Australia View User Gallery (22) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: XGPANELVAN wrote: yea reading that a bit more carefully, goes from full to empty in the space of 5 minutes? maybe a split hose?? has to be going somewhere, that much water in that amount of time isnt going to be getting into the head even if u had no gasket at all, aint possible Yeah very true, my guess is that its coming straight out of the exhaust. Which would mean its a head gasket or worse a damaged head. Back to top 4.9 EF Futura Moderator Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia View User Gallery (37) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Heater core? Are your feet wet? lol Geez i split a side tank and even that didnt leak as much (so long as left rad cap off) Back to top Ace Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 467 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney, Sutherland Shire NSW, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:51 am    Post subject: My car was doin this the other day, Had split a hose underneath the intake manifold (EL). This is the absolute worst place to split a hose cause you cant see or hear it until your engine has no water!!! Fill up your resevoir and run it in ya driveway for awhile and take a look if theres any water comin out, if ur losin water it will come out somewhere and the only real way to find it is by leaving it sitting somewhere running and seeing where the water comes out. Start the car and turn the aircon to full hot temp on max fan, rev it to 2000 for a few mins then get out and look at the water. Make sure u keep an eye on the temp too. When u fill it up keep the cap off the resevoir tank for awhile and if the water 'surges' back out like its pushing all the water out the top you need a new thermostat. Back to top Andrew J Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:21 Posts: 2414 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Manjimup WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Could be head, heater tap, split hose, radiator, or something similar. But if youve got no physical sign of water anywhere on the ground, in the car, or on the engine, then it tends to look like a head or gasket. But at that rate, id be thinking head. Back to top lockz Fordmods Stock as a Rock Posts: 125 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: any 'milky' reside on the bottom of the oil filler cap? YEP and idleing like s**t blows a bit of smoke sometimes and some sort of liquid out the exhaust sometimes Back to top 4.9 EF Futura Moderator Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia View User Gallery (37) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Hmmmmm - ever taken a head off before? Back to top lockz Fordmods Stock as a Rock Posts: 125 Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Location: melbourne VIC, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: cant say i have. sounds like its f**k. whats a head gasket cost to get replaced? ...might just be a good excuse to get a bank loan and go to ITS PERFORMANCE Back to top 4.9 EF Futura Moderator Age:27 Posts: 8658 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Adelaide CBD SA, Australia View User Gallery (37) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: Sounds like its well and truly f**k. Im not sure on total cost (i dont have a 6 cyl) but plenty of the guys here know all about it. Basically you need the head removed and inspected for damage, prolly decked to make sure the surface is still true. New gasket, put back together etc. Not much in the way of parts but plenty of labour involved. Back to top Ace Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 467 Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Location: Sydney, Sutherland Shire NSW, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: It'd be over a grand EASY... I'd expect about $1500 depending on the damage to the engine internals really... Unlucky mate Back to top Waggin Site Admin Age:25 Posts: 6734 Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Location: Sydney NSW, Australia View User Gallery (3) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: $1000-1500 from a workshop. Under $500 to DIY, unless the head needs to be replaced. Back to top Andrew J Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:21 Posts: 2414 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Manjimup WA, Australia View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Ace wrote: It'd be over a grand EASY... I'd expect about $1500 depending on the damage to the engine internals really... Unlucky mate Id hope not! Ive reaplced my head twice now (both times done at a shop after splitting it under the camshaft), once under warranty. The first time cost me 1300, which included the reconditioned head and obviously a head gasket. The plkace I went to was fairly reasonable, and helped me figure out things along the way. After getting water in the oil again, they tried to pass it off as condensation due to a hgher compression and blowby, and that theyd seen it on many cars. It was leaking water but, so they had a search around, replaced radiator cap, cracked hose, and heater tap, which all needed replacing, for free. That being said, they didnt listen to my original instructions of putting everything broken back in the boot of the car, so i lost a full set of brand new plugs. Oh well, the second head for free was good enough for me. Back to top XGPANELVAN Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:22 Posts: 698 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: Wellington New Zealand View User Gallery (0) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: i suggest if dont think you can do it or want to do it your self and are going to get a mechanic to do it, at least pull the inlet and outlet manifold off, undo the head and clean it up your self, then tow it to the mechanics yard and get him to do the rest, that'll knock off an hour or 2 off labour costs Back to top pepsimax Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:39 Posts: 400 Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Location: kirra QLD, Australia View User Gallery (4) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: took me 2 days to do my ea head gasket,only cause 3 of the bolts would not undo.. it cost me under 200 all up,,didn't need the head machined because it was still pretty straight,,and clean for that matter..wasn't to hard.. how the hell do you put pictures up here,,i've tried the [img][/img] buttons but it don't work Back to top XRFan101 Fordmods - Getting Side Ways Age:24 Posts: 3610 Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Location: Victor Harbor SA, Australia View User Gallery (22) Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: lockz wrote: any 'milky' reside on the bottom of the oil filler cap? YEP and idleing like s**t blows a bit of smoke sometimes and some sort of liquid out the exhaust sometimes Ahh yeah thiers your problem there mate, sounds like it is quite F***! Not being rude but get it checked out asap!!!! Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First             Forum Index -> 6 Cylinder Workshop Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   (c)2002-2008 Matti Jones and Brad Evans [47 queries :: 0.06109 seconds ]