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DMac
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 Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: Speaker wire an alternative power cable |
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hey guys wasn't sure where to post this.
i got som thick speaker wire with my wiring kit and have no use for it. anyway i am putting a neon in the boot and my way of hooking it up is by running this speaker wire with a ten amp fuse just the same way as we hook up an amp. then what i want to do is run the neon ground cable to the boot grounding switch which i think of it as sort a remote or trigger wire thing.
anyway do you reckon the spaker wire would be able tohave 10amp in it.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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How thick is it? Would the diameter of the copper (not including insulation) be 1mm or more? If so then it would be fine for 12v applications, after all copper is copper.....
There will be some who no doubt will dissagree with me as I have been told by sales people the welding cable (which I use to supply my amps) is resistive.....
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DMac
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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it says 16ga on the side of the wire
i would spose that would be 16 gauge |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| should be fine, neons draw f**k all power, but dont expect miracles if ya want to run other s**t off the same wire |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| it would be fine to power neons as Interceptor said, but I'd run a smaller fuse. Then you have all bases covered, if there is a fault the fuse will blow before the wiring gets hot. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:24 am Post subject: |
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what size fuse do yo reckon. i only thought 10 amp because the fuse that powers the cigarette lighter i nthe car is 10amp..
should i put a five amp fuse. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| generally only go slightly higher than the current draw of whatever the wire is powering |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| the neon doesn't say anything about what it draws so i think i am going to just put a 10 amp fuse an see how i go. oh hang on, what about i just put the same size fuse that is on the neon cable. the neons fuse is 1A250V. from what i understand it should be 1 amp 250vols. so i think i will just put a 5 amp fuse. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Thats way too high considering the neon fuse is 1A. Maybe 5% tolerance on top is the way to go. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| See what fuses you can get hold of if you can get less than 5A then go for it otherwise 5A should be ok... |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| The one amp fuse is to protect the neon. The fuse you are installing is to protect the wiring. 5 amp would do but if it were me I'd go with a 2 amp. You will be able to get them at an elecrtonics store like d**k Smith's. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| should be fine, i've used speaker wire for heaps of stuff, my air horn, my extra two driving lights and my gauges! |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| you've used it for your air horn and driving lights? F**k........ i hope it's f**k thick! |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| installed it and i cut the cig lighter adapter off. put some terminals on and plug it into where the boot light was. much easier then what i originally thought |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| i've used it for all my neons, 2 years running and still no problems, i actually burned out the wire they gave me with one of the neons, ended up swapping it for speaker wire which is still goin strong so, should b fine |
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| Interceptor wrote: | | you've used it for your air horn and driving lights? F**k........ i hope it's f**k thick! |
not really, but they've been going for almost a year perfectly now.
look how thin the factory wire is that powers the headlight globes and the factory horn!
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| It's a good point however. Many people think they need to use thick wire and they dig deep in their pockets when they don't actually need to.. If it doesn't break don't fix it. |
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| One Drone wrote: | | It's a good point however. Many people think they need to use thick wire and they dig deep in their pockets when they don't actually need to.. If it doesn't break don't fix it. |
sometimes a bit of preventative overkill saves a lot of expense and heartbreak later
when i installed a new pair of driving lights on my XF i stripped out the factory wiring loom and replaced all the foglight wiring, relay, etc with new stuff cos i simply didnt know it's true condition or capacity
i've got a pair of Hella 181's with IPF 130w bulbs in them, which means at the 13.4V i get at highway speed they draw a total of 19.4A, which is more than what a single run of 4mm is rated at, so there's 6mm between the battery and the relay with a fuse in the middle, and a pair of 4mm wires going to the foglight mounts
if you're running a pair of small 55w fog/driving lights, fair enough, but what if you want to upgrade later?
it's better to spend a lil extra initially and have a setup that you know is capable of handling it's job and even any possible upgrades than to either have to replace all your work down the track when you want to upgrade, or god forbid sitting at the side of the road in the rain one night when something has burnt out
IIRC a 30m roll of 4mm wire only cost me $20..... |
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