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SVO XR6
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Hey all.
Sorting out a turbo setup, on a budget. EL XR6
Aimed at street driving and for about 350rwhp.
Not too much to the point of blowing up the weak T5.
I got a ems 8860 already, so tuning should be fine.
Dont want any lag, so im goin to try lowish boost with about 8-10 psi but with a twist, high comp. Like 9.7:1. I know the old school guys tryed and tested, but went back to low comp dus to they were chasing stupid power  but they found it to be wiked for killing lag.
But head flows 380hp
But i reccon it wil work for what im chasing???
Using a T04, ext wg, largish intercooler, ed intake mani, 40psi ish(still to be decided) injectors with ajst fuel reg and pump., 3inch dump, low mounted exhaust mani ( im goin to put a heat shroud over turb, cop factor, wont see it)
Any other ideas??
Remember, im not after a huge power, just reliable, street tough power. |
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I'm keen to see results on high'ish compression.
I'd say it's doable, but would probably be more reliable on a strong bottom end. Forged pistons/molly rings, etc.
Turbo is sitting somewhere in the distant future for my wagon once I run out of NA options. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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from my small amount of knowledge i would say that would a good reliable cruiser. i intend to turbo a ef or el sometime in the future and i will be using a t3 or t4, ed inlet manifold, magna blue injectors etc
anyway i was told that lowering compression is needed if you want the massive power figures, but for a nice street cruiser it is better to keep standard compression so it sill has some go when off boost |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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but i think the comp shoud be fine for the power im chasing.
anything after that, would be a different story |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| What do ppl think of decompression plates? |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would work well, but you would just have to be careful with timing - and get a pretty damned good intercooler.
BTW, there's a T04 and Manifold on ebay at the moment for like $700 (auction ends pretty soon I think). |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:12 am Post subject: |
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what would be the ideal comp for around 10psi? and not lgain lag, its a streeter  |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:27 am Post subject: |
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the exhaust a/r should ideally be between .84 and 1.2 or there abouts for a 4 litre ford i have been told and that was only .7
there are a heap of t 4s on there that would be suitable but starting prices are about 700 or 800 but they are new |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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something i found
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: |
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A big 4L 6 is not going to have any lag if you choose the correct turbo. Personally I would select a GT35/40 with a 1.06 AR and you will have max boost at very low revs, with the potential of mega HP when the driveline can cope with it (we're talking a 700hp turbo).
Your no doubt going to want to chase more hp once you have setup the 'mild' 350hp streeter you describe, so just bite the bullet and pull the engine. Freshen up the bottom end with some low comp pistons, around 8.0-8.5 is ideal. You dont need forgies (everyone will tell you that its mandatory, but its not... plus you will have to listen to slapping pistons everytime you start your cold engine). Blueprint, balance, shotpeen the rods bla bla bla.
EB/D intake manifold is a good selection, however it would be wiser to have the runners laser cut a few inches from the ports and a custom plennum (about 10L) welded up, with a nice sized TB. Cooler, injectors bla bla you know what you need there.
How big is your budget? less than 8k will see the above happen... Do it once, do it right...
Thats just my opinion, and thats how its being built in my toy when the time comes... |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I would love to but its the money factor, i cant afford to do that.
Also once you get over 400hpish you start having diff/box probs and there is another expence.
It would be f**k awsome tho!!! But as you say, i know i will prob want more when i get it. 
But you have to stop somewhere, and a house/business is on the card for me soon.  |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, ARs of 1.00 are really the minimum for a 4lt
Around $1000 will get you a decent used garrett of this size, but dont fall for the dodgy stuff that lurks around ebay... they look good and bargain priced, but made from rubish materials ect
Are you DIY the whole set up? |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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as much as i can
apart from plumbing it i spose 
yeah, seen the e-bay specials
turbonetics e mailed me and said a T04E or a T04B would be best for me???
opinions? |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| What ARs are they? Theres a zillion to4s |
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| Trim of wheels etc They vary.... |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:39 am Post subject: |
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I've got a To4B sitting at home, the AR's are .84 hotside and .6 cold side. This is going on my bros ED manual with standard compression but on low boost
But by comparison, the 2 T3's i've got are .81 hotside and .6 cold side |
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