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Mitch_ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like Chris Payne doesnt like the sound of it  |
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Leszek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| mitch_anderson wrote: | sounds like Chris Payne doesnt like the sound of it  |
sounds like fear to me  |
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GTBob Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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HO"S forever (only because I own one from new)  |
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TwinturboBMX Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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That david payne needs to be slapped over the head 300 times.
I wonder why hsv have more cars on the road, i wonder why they have a broader model range, i wonder why they have so much technology. Hmmm my answer is they have been around about 3 times longer then FPV. If FPV had been around since or even before hsv then i'm sure he wouldnt have said one smart a*** remark like that.
As for the GT-HO program IF they do it they better get it right or they will suffer for the screw up. The thing is they have to keep the name going, not a half a*** attempt.(as he said) |
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twr7cx Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the GT-P should be ditched, and GT-HO should be brought in, no point in having the GT-P then which would just be some misfit inbetween GT and GT-HO. |
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data_mine Technical Contributor
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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GTHO = GT-P + CAPA Kit + FPV Warranty
Would only need 350RWKW to kill any HSV for the next few years. And they'd SELL. |
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Interceptor Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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HSV? technology? where?
HSV had a big technology lead with the VL/VN Group A's, but after that they just became a jazzed up family hack with lowered springs and better tyres that gave the impresion that the FE2 suspension performed better than it actually did |
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Thomas Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| data_mine wrote: | GTHO = GT-P + CAPA Kit + FPV Warranty
Would only need 350RWKW to kill any HSV for the next few years. And they'd SELL. |
Wouldn't they have problems releasing it to the public, i was reading a article in motor magazine or was it wheels were HSV were saying that they could but won't release a 300kw+ road car for a while because they don't think it is needed and they do not want to start "kilowatt wars".  |
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twr7cx Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Are HO's supercharged?
I thought HO's started as GT's with better handling, and eventually were just beefed up N/a GT's! Didn't know they were supercharged. |
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TwinturboBMX Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| twr7cx wrote: | Are HO's supercharged?
I thought HO's started as GT's with better handling, and eventually were just beefed up N/a GT's! Didn't know they were supercharged. |
They never were. But what do you do to an engine to get more power these days??????? Forced induction is your more common answer. |
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twr7cx Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| TwinturboBMX wrote: | | twr7cx wrote: | Are HO's supercharged?
I thought HO's started as GT's with better handling, and eventually were just beefed up N/a GT's! Didn't know they were supercharged. |
They never were. But what do you do to an engine to get more power these days??????? Forced induction is your more common answer. |
Didn't think so. Well, the chances of Ford forcing it are zero in my opinion. I mean if they bring back the HO name, there gunna want to keep it like it was, so if it wasn't forced from factory back then, I seriously doubt it will be now! |
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Samsy Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| twr7cx wrote: | Are HO's supercharged?
I thought HO's started as GT's with better handling, and eventually were just beefed up N/a GT's! Didn't know they were supercharged. |
The old H.O.s were not supercharged, but most people tip that if a modern version was built , that it would be supercharged. |
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TwinturboBMX Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Samsy hit the nail on the head. As i said it is the modern day interpretation as was the return of the GT. So they are adding a modern day power increaser in the supercharger.
There were rumours it would be either a supercharged V10 or supercharged V8, as in both cases both rumours suggested supercharging or at least some type of forced induction.
Plus ford now have the xr6T how many people would have expected that (into the future) when the first xr6 came out??? |
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Mitch_ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| they'd have to go v8... |
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Timmeh Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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HSV have no technology. Same engines just bigger. Thats not using technology.
Why bother interviewing HSV for a Ford article? s**t. |
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Tomek Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Snow_white wrote: | | data_mine wrote: | GTHO = GT-P + CAPA Kit + FPV Warranty
Would only need 350RWKW to kill any HSV for the next few years. And they'd SELL. |
Wouldn't they have problems releasing it to the public, i was reading a article in motor magazine or was it wheels were HSV were saying that they could but won't release a 300kw+ road car for a while because they don't think it is needed and they do not want to start "kilowatt wars".  |
I mean if people were responsible with cars, kilowatt wars shouldnt be a problem, |
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twr7cx Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Tomek wrote: | | Snow_white wrote: | Wouldn't they have problems releasing it to the public, i was reading a article in motor magazine or was it wheels were HSV were saying that they could but won't release a 300kw+ road car for a while because they don't think it is needed and they do not want to start "kilowatt wars".  |
I mean if people were responsible with cars, kilowatt wars shouldnt be a problem, |
I also read that Snow_white.
I still always thought the HO ment N/A V8 very powerful, whacking a supercharger changes that. Well have to wait and see, no point debating something when neither of us can actually be proven right. I do see your point of view, but rumours are just that...
Isn't the same engine as used in the GT's used in the Stangs over in America or something like that? ANd there getting a lot more power still N/A arn't they?
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Mitch_ Cruise Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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maybe they should chuck a 351 in it  |
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AKO Fordmods - Getting Side Ways
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| How up themselves are HSV, burnt sausages and all that s**t. HSV owners want individuallity, s**t. If they wanted individuallity they wouldnt opt for a car with a bodykit that hasnt changed much in ten years. My mate has a VT senator signature. The thing rattles and sqeaks like a b**ch, but it goes hard in a straight line and thats what HSV is all about. My ED kills it in the bends and thats when the motor was stock. |
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