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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: webber is hopeless Reply with quote

webber is bloody hopeless ,he has started on the front row a couple of times now and he still cant get a podium
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sure its not easy as it looks
give him some respect...
atleast he is outthere doing it
f**k i hear they drop 5kg of weight every race because of the stress they are under...

i say good on him for doing it...
and hope he gets better and wins some

i dont know too many other aussies that are out there doing it?
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:19 am    Post subject: 6 th Reply with quote

hey NC5 guy MARK finished 6 th he is driving a bmw FLASH icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's s**t, everybody's supporting him just because he's Australian. f**k him, if he was sudanese or something nobody would give a s**t.... if he was any good they might, but he's not. "He's an Australian, and at least he's doing it" wtf is that supposed to mean, give him credit for embarasing us? I'd rather he be not doing it, than doing it badly. f**k him off to the wheelchair races instead of F1, where his slow retarded a*** belongs.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who the f**k cares about F1..
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit he is disapointing, he's obviously got a good car this season, constantly up there in qualafying, but he can't last the distance in the race.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think the car is that great, it obiviously doesnt have the speed of either the renault, mclaren, toyota or ferrari which are the top runners.
but sayin that, mark does usually make the most of wat he is given

the only reason he started on the front row was because he was lighter then everyone else, if he had the same fuel he would have been lucky to be inthe top 6 or 8
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There can only be 1 winner, so does that make the rest of the field hopeless?

The vast majority of the field never make it onto the podium in an entire season..
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can Webber be hopeless? Qualified second, how is that s**t?

Its not Webber, its the car setup. Its been setup for qualifying so when they add the fuel load, the car gains more weight and is less effective. BMW Williams just need to find the right setup.

Rakkioen did well, had a huge lead byt he first stop. Pitted and still came out in front. Also stops the Renault wins.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icon_cool.gif He will get higher finishes as they get the car better set up and the motor set up right icon_cool.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twirqurky wrote:
Its not Webber, its the car setup


how does the famous quote go... 'a poor workman always blames his tools'?

hehe icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icon_biggrin.gif Yes but in saying that he has managed to get the car to the pointy end of the field this year.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres not much they can do
look at hiedfeld? he cant get a start cause every race he has a new motor
its jsut unlucky for them
the same thing is goin on with barrichello

they just cant win a trick
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That car has had trouble from the start. Their aero package just isn't working so they have to have the biggest rear wing possible on the back = 10-20 km/h slower on the straights. How are you supposed to be competitive when the opposition either speed away or catch up that much every lap? A perfect example is how Fisichella just drove straight past Webber down the straight with about 3 laps to go...
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ef302 wrote:
That car has had trouble from the start. Their aero package just isn't working so they have to have the biggest rear wing possible on the back = 10-20 km/h slower on the straights. How are you supposed to be competitive when the opposition either speed away or catch up that much every lap? A perfect example is how Fisichella just drove straight past Webber down the straight with about 3 laps to go...


not to mention there poor starts
i think webber has been 2nd 3 times this year and after each start he losses about 3 or 4 placings icon_confused.gif
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uglybob wrote:
twirqurky wrote:
Its not Webber, its the car setup


how does the famous quote go... 'a poor workman always blames his tools'?

hehe icon_razz.gif


Yes, and your tools are getting sick of it Fraser!
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's obviously not the car, it may be the wrong set up, but the car itself is obviously got the potential to be up there with the right driver and set up - this was proven by Webber qualifiying 2nd. If his car wasn't nearly as good as the others then he wouldn't be beating them in qualifying. The problem is he's not managing to get the results in the races which go longer. But he's still having a better season than last, so there is some improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would assume all the experts bagging Webber have been on the podium in F1.
I would have thought it would be hard to judge sombody when you know nothing about what realy going on.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well might as well say all drivers are s**t then hey, none of them stared out winning races d**k head. give him time.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: wait a second Reply with quote

didnt webber drive a ford last year ummmUMM?BMW IS A LOT BETTER CAR .where have the jags or cats or cossies icon_redface.gif gone
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