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Smackdown
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The sub pretty much over powers the rears, so if i can get a decent pair of splits with pleanty of mid-bass then i have done it right.  |
The rears in big cars are only meant to be a filler. Get awesome speakers/splits in the front and normal series in the back. When do you sit the back of your car anyway? Even when you are there, you're either p****d or busy doing something(one) else. |
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One Drone
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| Aaron_EF8 wrote: | | Off-topic for a second, how much did the GreenStuff pads cost? |
They're about $100.
The tweeters in the stock positions bring the stage right up and also reflect against the windscreen which sounds sorta harsh to me. Ideally you want the tweeters as close to the woofers as possible. |
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ch0c0
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| One Drone wrote: | | Ideally you want the tweeters as close to the woofers as possible. |
exactly, having them too far apart means you hear the sound coming from different directions
sounds much better if both high and mid/low appears to be coming from the same sound source. |
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XRFan101
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Oh man but that requires more effort and modifications....  I will see what happens, depending on how much its goning to cost for the splits, cause i certainly wont be doing the work.
off topic but
Yeah i just got the price on my EBC's and yes they are fricken expensive ($180) and i couldnt get them ne cheaper either.
I was going to do a full brake upgrade but atm im just going to get some decent brake pads for now until i can come up with more $$$ to get the greenstuffs (was a bit more than i thought they would be lol) |
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One Drone
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Talk to Nick about the deals he can get with Hightek brakes, they can mail the pads to you and it will all cost max about $120.
It is understandable that you can not have speakers in the perfect positions without costing a lot of $$$ however just do the best you can with what you have. Waggin and someone else here has the tweeters to the little door pillar there and that would be ok on a budget. |
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Smackdown
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| ch0c0 wrote: | | One Drone wrote: | | Ideally you want the tweeters as close to the woofers as possible. |
exactly, having them too far apart means you hear the sound coming from different directions
sounds much better if both high and mid/low appears to be coming from the same sound source. |
On the contrary, when fitting splits its recommended that a distance of 50cm from the woofer is ideal. thats the whole point of splits. If you're gonna place them on top of the woofer or right next to it, just get some good 2 ways. |
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XRFan101
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Oh here we go two different opinions, whos right and whos wrong LOL.
I would of thought keeping the distance to where the factory splits are in the EF XR's would be fine.
I mean with the dash mat covering them ne way its not like its producing 100% of its sound onto the windscreen should still sound very nice, if you get what i mean. |
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aphexer
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what i don't quite understand is how firing onto the windscreen can make it have more treble than having the speaker firing directly at you?
how does the windscreen produce the treble because i'm sure the tweeter isn't any different! |
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ch0c0
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the windscreen reflects the sound directly at you, at around head levelish, whereas the woofer is down lower, so you can hear the treble over the midrange.
im always of the opinion that your tweeters should be around 30cm or so from the woofer
any closer and you might as well go 2 or 3 ways, but further away and i feel it starts to sound funny. |
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XRFan101
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah i sortta get what ya mean, With my HU thou i can change the power output of the high freq ne way. It still sounds good when its changed but the treble is just toned down a bit. Im sure most other HU's can do much the same. |
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i guess it comes down to what you want to do, how it fits in your budget.
ideally, you would have pods instead of mounting them in your doors, but when your on a bit of a budget, or are looking for more of a stealth install u might as well stick with what you've got.
to look in my car it looks like the speakers are standard  no exposed tweeters, no fancy pods
sounds good enuf for me too, loud & clear! |
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XRFan101
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah im sorta happy with mine i mean i cant expect my 200wrms amp to power my 12 DVC sub to its full power. And the only thing my system really lacks is midbass everything else is good. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ive been through a few brands of splits and te INFINITY ones i have at the moment are awesome for the cost of them $300. I removed the standard dash pad mounted tweeters and fitted the new tweeters in the grill part of the dash top, they come with adjustable bases so sound direction can be changed to suit. very happy with them. i have pics of tweeter install if interested. |
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aphexer
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you could try spending some $$ on sound deadening.
i found it not only improved my mid-bass in the doors, but also the clarity of the sound and the apparant volume (by apparant, i mean, less rattles means u can concentrate on the music more)
u could do ur boot while ur at it and improve ur sub bass too |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| alpine type r spr-176a 6-1/2 "splits rrp $469 i picked mine up from alpine dealer $300 :)they also come in 5-1/4 " size so just incase u may have dramas fitting them in doors...i didnt have any probs fitting 6-1/2" both in the rear fill and doors in a au also alpine dealers have combo on componets and amps pop in store and grab a free brochure |
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XRFan101
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Yeah i gotta go login in to Alpine.com.au and grab some vouchers, as im a memebr with their website. ( i could of got $200 of thier latest CD stacker too) they sent me the coupon slip. RRP of the CD staker was $499 and the voucher was good for -$200 off of that price at ne Alpine dealer/store.
Too bad i didnt sell my car back then as that was 4 weeks ago and now its expired GGRRR. |
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ch0c0
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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yeah jaycar stuff is tops
i think il be looking at infinity splits when i redo my stereo.
but i think thats a while off at the moment. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah im headin into the city tommorrow so i have to find out where bloody Jaycar is in Adelaide.. actually i think its on South Road but ne way will be checking them out as well as just about every other brand that has been mentioned. |
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| Focals by far, 2 way and 3 way components, failing that dyn audio, both very bright in treble but good control and handling, and complemented by a clean mid bass |
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