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Lion_Tamer
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 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: why is my ef i6 faster than an el xr8 |
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| i have an ef futura inline 6 and the only mods i have are extractors and a 2.5 inch exhaust. i found this awesome looking el xr8 and it had the best custom sound system, anyways this guy has a 3 inch exhaust and extractors, i took it for a drive and gave it a kick in the guts on a straight piece of road and i swear my futura would leave it for dead to at least 100km/h. i did notice though the extractors only have 1 inch pipes coming out and my extractors are 1.5 inch in diameter. would this be chokin his car or what coz i thought seeing though his car has more power and torque and is only like 50kg heavier. either that or my car is a freak car, i dont know all my mates are holden fags so i cant compare it to another ef futura. its and awesome car tho, low kays sounds real tough but just no balls 0-100, i have no doubt its top end would be better than mine but yeah, around the city off the line acceleration is better for me. if i get it my ef will be the supercharger fund hahaha then ill be havin no worries there. but if anyone knows why this the case let us know ok. |
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Bassfreak55
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea..
But my elxr8 when compared to my mates elxr6 is identical in first gear (both manual), but once i hit second gear, i start to leave him..
His mods (EL XR6):
Extractors, 2.5in exhaust, hi-flo cat, ported & polished head.
My mods (EL XR8):
Pacemaker tri-y's, 3in exhaust, hi-flo cats, ss induction, bmc filter. |
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Daniel
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I find 1st gear ordinary actually, i mean the torque is awesome but its not the type of power that will push you faster, once i hit 2nd gear tho im moving well n truely, plus there is a big kick in the back in the 1st to 2nd gear change which in itself adds about 10km/hr to the speedo instantly abover the normal acceleration, loverly!  |
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Bassfreak55
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Daniel wrote: | | I find 1st gear ordinary actually, i mean the torque is awesome but its not the type of power that will push you faster, once i hit 2nd gear tho im moving well n truely, plus there is a big kick in the back in the 1st to 2nd gear change which in itself adds about 10km/hr to the speedo instantly abover the normal acceleration, loverly! |
Couldnt have put it better myself! |
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twr7cx
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not just have a run against it and see if your car's really quicker? |
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One Drone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| That said, the XR8s are nothing special. |
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Daniel
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well if your gonna be like that drone, nothing ea-el was special.. LOL  |
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Bassfreak55
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| One Drone wrote: | | That said, the XR8s are nothing special. |
Not in stock form anyway..
But nothing tops the sound!  |
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Interceptor
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Daniel wrote: | | Well if your gonna be like that drone, nothing ea-el was special.. LOL |
what about the LWB's? or are ya just being a snob? |
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Daniel
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Interceptor wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | | Well if your gonna be like that drone, nothing ea-el was special.. LOL |
what about the LWB's? or are ya just being a snob? |
Its nothing to sneeze at, but imho a supercharger might finish it off nicely lol!
200kw fairlane isnt much when late model v8s come with 220-300 std in domestic cars, then the euros do better again.
I guess im being a snob as youd put it lol!  |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Dont have much of a problem with the I6s. Geez, i dont even have an XR8 |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: ef 6 vs el xr8 |
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| the gear box is heavier but go top end he will chop you at 160km if you have the balls to drive that fast try to go to a drag strip as I try not to endorse top end street racing as the poor porche at bathurst f**k up coming off a bridge at high speed |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| well isnt there there a one or two kw difference between the two motors and not much more torque with the v8, thats why in first they would be the same i take it |
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Daniel
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well, el xr8 had 175 or 185 kw didnt it?
fbt has 195, a lil bit more than the 6 but not tones aye.  |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Bassfreak55 wrote: | | One Drone wrote: | | That said, the XR8s are nothing special. |
Not in stock form anyway..
But nothing tops the sound! |
Amen to that! |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:25 am Post subject: |
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I am surprised that the six runs even close! I wouldnt be at all surprised if the XR8 wasnt being kicked terribly hard...
Comparing my EF Fairmont that i had converted to manual, with Exhaust system, cam, XR6 chip and all the other basic mods against my manual EL XR8 with a few little tickles, i get to 100 about 2.5 seconds quicker than the fairmont ever used to. 1 st gear absolutey kills the 6, so i ahve an incling that you werent being shown the true colours of the XR8.
I agree, that nothing before the AU3's were terribly exciting as standard compared to what they are rolling off the show rooms these days, but i would be blown away if the slightly modified 6 even comes close to a slightly modified 8.
But on the other hand, you may have some freak Futura. What are you normally doing 0-100 in? I am not asking for official times or anything, just the trusty ol stop watch... |
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| twr7cx wrote: | | Why not just have a run against it and see if your car's really quicker? |
Iv'e gotta agree line it up you will be surprised!, a mate of mine has an EF XR6 and Iv'e got the EL XR8 and when I got her I took him for a spin & he said I think my b**ch will keep up or even go past it, so I offered him a little wager (bottle of JIMMY!,by the way I had already raced an AU VCT XR6 and blew him) any way 0-40 he stayed next to me, 40-80 I gained a car length ,80-180 I made aprox 5 lengths ,then his limiter kicked in and I found that my car never had one fitted (X police, not pesuit just a D car) I found my XR8 to be quicker in econ as it still has that pothetic HO manifold and doesn't like high revs |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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a mate had an auto ef xr6, and i swear it felt quicker than my 5spd ef.
lined him up one day, pulled 1/2 car length by 60, 1 carlength to 100, and backed off, all that with a dodgy take-off, so i was real surprised. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| u could have a freak car. it happens! a guy i know has a vn exec base model heap-o-s**t standard 3.8L v6, but f**k it hammers for some reason, me and my mates reckon its a freak, it gets up and moves, (im talking stock standard, nothing done to it apart from cheap mag wheels.) |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:47 am Post subject: |
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I beat a el xr8 manual with 3" exhaust extractors, some induction s**t in my eb xr6... even after 100 still couldnt catch up
was at drags btw |
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