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efster
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: Worth Changing From Std XR6 Cam To A Wad Cam |
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Would it be worth the money to change an EF XR6 std cam to another brand such as the wad cam how much difference in performance.
Thanks Dazza |
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tickford_6
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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i had a wade cam in my EF XR6 and it was slower by 0.5 sec on the 1/4 mile.
so personly i say no don't do it.
but thats just me, and i'll never buy an other cam from wade. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I run a wade cam in my car has given good results . also to see results you need to do some air induction work read my specks. |
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smoke_
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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what wade cam you got?
and how much was it? |
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Disco Frank
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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DO NOT PUT A WADE IN A XR6
they are good cams but the stge 2 is basically the xr6 cam i have doen this and lost power and gaindf fuel econ |
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tickford_6
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Disco Frank wrote: | DO NOT PUT A WADE IN A XR6
they are good cams but the stge 2 is basically the xr6 cam i have doen this and lost power and gaindf fuel econ |
we all know the XR6 one is bigger than a stock one. but talk to wade and they'll try and tell you the XR6 cam is the same as a GLI cam.
so that makes three of us that have lost power from using a wade cam |
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drazull
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I dont want to hear this. I am about to install my wade cam soon, even ordered it also. Its the new profile, 1604 I think. I will be able to tell you how it goes in a (almost stock) EF XR6.
Gimme a PM in two weeks and I can fill you in. |
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Disco Frank
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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drazull it could be fine as that was not the profile i used
Wade did know my car had a different cam than the forte etc yet they still sent me the same cam as what i had originally....
i sold the wade to a friend and we put it in a au fairnmont and the car went heaps better and this is withouth exhaust! |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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frank has an au - so for starters theres a big difference
i got a 6rwkw gain from putting the cam in, my mate with the xr6 ef engine got a 5RWkw gain also, they are a good bang for your buck |
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twr7cx
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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(I e-mailed this to Wade last week, still waiting on the reply)
When you put your cam in, do you need to use Vernier Cam gear to get the timing right? |
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drazull
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Disco Frank, sorry mate I read the thread as efster having an XR6 and wanting to replace that cam with one from wade. I have recently ordered my the new 1604 grind to go in soon. I hence assumed that we had the same cars?
Anyhow, I went to repco and asked after the venier timing gears. Had a vauge idea of what they were but could'nt help. Went to O.G speed shop after a timing gear set for an EF Falcon, will pick that up tommorow. Shop counter assured me this would ensure that my new cam had the correct timing. |
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| drazull wrote: | Disco Frank, sorry mate I read the thread as efster having an XR6 and wanting to replace that cam with one from wade. I have recently ordered my the new 1604 grind to go in soon. I hence assumed that we had the same cars?
Anyhow, I went to repco and asked after the venier timing gears. Had a vauge idea of what they were but could'nt help. Went to O.G speed shop after a timing gear set for an EF Falcon, will pick that up tommorow. Shop counter assured me this would ensure that my new cam had the correct timing. |
nar thats cool i reading the same way as you are....
\as for the timing gear set that is what u need what u need  |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| tickford_6 wrote: | i had a wade cam in my EF XR6 and it was slower by 0.5 sec on the 1/4 mile.
so personly i say no don't do it.
but thats just me, and i'll never buy an other cam from wade. |
I thought we'd come to an amicable agreement when we offered to replace your cam with another grind of your choosing at no charge. We haven't heard from you since.
Chris
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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yeah thats the gist i got too when i bought mine, if its crap (or dont match your car specs) wade are happy to discuss other options..
as for mine 1004-112 i fkn love it. its similar to xr6 though so prolly not worth upgrading.. go another step up,. billet stg 3 or something and chip it.
i am impressed with the price, (hint buy 5 and get a discount with mates)
my cam goes really hard with decent exhaust extrators and manny
my mate (Smackdown) has just put his crow stg 3 in his ef. and its made a diff but the chip was for an el so hes getting it reflashed.. without the chip it seemed similar to the wade st 2, but we'll see how it goes next week with the fuel ratios better. hot high hopes.
CHRIS : is there a time limit for sending back the cams from our cars,, we been waiting ffor the last guy to do his install, then we'll send all 5 back. im hanging out for my deposit back! |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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look you will see a increase in an xr6 engine like i said, we have dyno results of a 5rwkw gain
for just under 130 thats excellent value |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| FastFutura wrote: | yeah thats the gist i got too when i bought mine, if its crap (or dont match your car specs) wade are happy to discuss other options..
as for mine 1004-112 i fkn love it. its similar to xr6 though so prolly not worth upgrading.. go another step up,. billet stg 3 or something and chip it.
i am impressed with the price, (hint buy 5 and get a discount with mates)
my cam goes really hard with decent exhaust extrators and manny
my mate (Smackdown) has just put his crow stg 3 in his ef. and its made a diff but the chip was for an el so hes getting it reflashed.. without the chip it seemed similar to the wade st 2, but we'll see how it goes next week with the fuel ratios better. hot high hopes.
CHRIS : is there a time limit for sending back the cams from our cars,, we been waiting ffor the last guy to do his install, then we'll send all 5 back. im hanging out for my deposit back! |
No time limit within reason. Since the cams should be returned in say three parcels...why not send what you have now and the rest later.
Thanks for your positive views of the 1004. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone got before/after dyno graphs with these cams in? particuarly interested in the new 1604. Remember to also list any mods and type of car.
Post the pics here?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| FastFutura wrote: | | my mate (Smackdown) has just put his crow stg 3 in his ef. and its made a diff but the chip was for an el so hes getting it reflashed.. without the chip it seemed similar to the wade st 2, but we'll see how it goes next week with the fuel ratios better. hot high hopes. |
I thought EF and EL chips wern't compatible due to different pin outs.
Will you get better improvements with one of those Vernier Cam Gear to dial in the new cam? |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| twr7cx wrote: | | FastFutura wrote: | | my mate (Smackdown) has just put his crow stg 3 in his ef. and its made a diff but the chip was for an el so hes getting it reflashed.. without the chip it seemed similar to the wade st 2, but we'll see how it goes next week with the fuel ratios better. hot high hopes. |
I thought EF and EL chips wern't compatible due to different pin outs.
Will you get better improvements with one of those Vernier Cam Gear to dial in the new cam? |
the chip just needs reflashing to work - already spoken to Chiptorque, and its on its way.
as for the vernier gear - we have spoken to lots of people, and have got lots of different answers. the majority from people who know the most seem to be that he doesn't need it. so he hasn't thrown it in. may do so in the future to make sure hes getting the most out of it however. |
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twr7cx
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| uglybob wrote: | | Will you get better improvements with one of those Vernier Cam Gear to dial in the new cam? |
as for the vernier gear - we have spoken to lots of people, and have got lots of different answers. the majority from people who know the most seem to be that he doesn't need it. so he hasn't thrown it in. may do so in the future to make sure hes getting the most out of it however.[/quote]
That question was ment to be inregards to all cam shafts. Like say I purchase a Wade one now, will the improvements on my engine be better if I get a vernier cam gear aswell? |
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