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tearlejc
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 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: XB coupe needs motor - ideas?? |
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Hi guys!
I used to post to this group a year or two ago and it closed down - great to see it going again!!
Anyway, I have an XB coupe currently with a 250 2V and 4 speed on lpg but the 2v is getting a bit tired and I'm looking to replace it - but the replacement must be more powerful and roughly as good on fuel (still lpg)
I'm thinking :
Carb xflow motor XD, XE? (carb version to avoid nasty wiring hassles)
EB would be nice, but what is fit like in an XB? also how yuk is the wiring??
My sentimental fave is a 302 windsor , just that they are getting so hard to find...
What have others fitted?
Any major probs or whatever to report?
Also, if I do go for a manual windsor, will that bolt up to my existing g/box? (single rail)
Thanks heaps guys - this site has helped me 3 or 4 times in the past where I was pulling my hair out for info... |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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RB30!!11!!1
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Give it up as a bad idea and send it to me  |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| whats wrong with a cleveland? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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be worth more standard with
matching numbers!!!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| xfnoho wrote: | be worth more standard with
matching numbers!!!!! |
tru dat, but IIRC no XB's came out with the hi-po 250-2V as standard |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Interceptor wrote: | | xfnoho wrote: | be worth more standard with
matching numbers!!!!! |
tru dat, but IIRC no XB's came out with the hi-po 250-2V as standard |
may have just had the head changed.
just chuck in a clevo. easy to convert in a day. plenty of grunt . and sound aswell. its a no brainer really  |
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| Interceptor wrote: | | xfnoho wrote: | be worth more standard with
matching numbers!!!!! |
tru dat, but IIRC no XB's came out with the hi-po 250-2V as standard |
I think those heads only came out in XY and XA's  I've seen a few of the 250 Non X/Flowheads 2V's fitted to XK-XP 6 mtrs and different meets.
I would go for the 351 Clevo in the XB. Plus coupes are hard to come by at a good price. Plus they still fetch a few dollars at swap meets, so you could sell the mtr and head easy enough
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| More power less fuel ? Must go fuel injected for this senario , but cubic inches mean more horsepower.[/quote] |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| Mate 302's and 351's are a dime a dozen and if u shop around a bit you can pick them up at a bargin price as far as fuel consumption goes you cant beat gas i was driving my coupe about 300ks a week for about $15-$20 half the price of my XR6 and if you are concerned about the price of a gas set up you can quite easily pick them up second hand and fit some of the components yourself and take it to a gas fitter for the final pie up from the tank. to get good power from a 351 compared to a newer 6 will be a lot cheaper too. just a few points to think about, good luck with it all |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i would go the 351 cleveland under the hood , thats what ive got under my XA coupes bonnet, sounds great.
As for gear boxes, if your going with a 351 clevo i would get rid of the single rail and drop in a toploader.
With the conversion you dont have to worry about changing front brakes as long as they are disk's they were the same on the 6 cylinder and v8's, just front suspension (springs and shocks)
clevelands are cheap as chips at the moment, just read the trading post or look on ebay. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi guys,
thanks for all the responses - no, I'm not getting rid of it...
The 2v is not standard - xy, xa only - but it was in there when I got it...
Nothing wrong with clevo's only I seem to have a bad run with them...I suppose, too, I can't be buggered changing front springs - they are heavy
Windsors are that little bit lighter...
And whatever it is will be on gas |
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| Hows this for being original? BA 5.4 220kw single cammer. Before you flame me to death remember that its just a suggestion and I think its a valid suggestion. Everyones talking about the BOSS motors but give it time and this could be the bargain buy V8. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| would the 5.4 fit in a XB tho?? they're still pretty wide |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| xcabbi wrote: | | Hows this for being original? BA 5.4 220kw single cammer. Before you flame me to death remember that its just a suggestion and I think its a valid suggestion. Everyones talking about the BOSS motors but give it time and this could be the bargain buy V8. |
Love the idea but I have to agree, don't think they would fit, they would be narrower than the BOSS but they are still wide, but if they could fit (large sledge hammer and oxy could work wonders). Just fit one with a blower, the Lightning is a SOHC 16V 4.6L fitted with a Eaton blower.
How about a 460, I know that has been flogged heaps too, but think about the fun.
Springs aren't that hard to change, if you have the right tools 
What is your budget? |
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tearlejc
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, the good ol budget... believe me, I'd love to go BA but I reckon save the hassles and go turbo 6 - hard to beat a potential 1,000 horses!!!!!
ok, back to planet earth - my budget will top out at about $1,000 - I know, half of you are saying what will that get?? Well, ideal purchase would be say a defected or damaged XY, 302, pref. manual - possible even to get something still regoe'd even... then, chuck the 250 in that and get rid of it for whatever I can get... I know it sounds dodgy but done it a few times before, and even managed to turn a profit as well as end up with new running gear. I prefer to have a whole car to work with for ease of grabbing wiring, trans mounts etc etc.
Real cheapo version just means getting hold of an XD- XF - have you seen how cheap these are now?? saw a primo example the other day - efi 250 5 speed on gas, a bit rusty, 350 bux. Simply cannot go wrong... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| if your staying 6 stick with the old 2v they have been known to show up the odd 302 but really just save and get a 351 and dont worry about economy just the other week my local paper had an xd with 351/top loader/9" for $1200 and it was in there for 3 weeks a cheap old car is the go then you get all the forgoten about trinkets who cares if its a rusted out unreg wreck you only need running gear then you need some huge back wheels that coupes should have come with std start at 10" |
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| Damage wrote: |
Love the idea but I have to agree, don't think they would fit, they would be narrower than the BOSS but they are still wide, but if they could fit (large sledge hammer and oxy could work wonders).
How about a 460, I know that has been flogged heaps too, but think about the fun.
Springs aren't that hard to change, if you have the right tools
What is your budget? |
If the budget is big enough then an RRS strut kit and shock tower notching kit would give it quite a bit more room to fit. As for the 460 oh s**t yeah even a mildly worked one is wheelspin city. And they could be had for cheap as chips too. I've seen runners with gearboxes go for a tick over 1500 bucks. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| try xf efi motor good power exelent fuel econ big job tho |
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| kris n nicky wrote: | | try xf efi motor good power exelent fuel econ big job tho |
Sorry but I just p****d my self laughing when I read this.
Yes a freshly rebuilt and properly run in example may fit your description but a delapidated one with 270,000+kms isn't even woth looking at unless you can pick it up for free and plan to rebuild it with a ported head and hot cam. Otherwise just throw it in the tip. |
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