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yakymoto
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| dude i'm almost 18 and ive been driving since i was 10, he might have a bit of experience |
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gilesie
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| yakymoto wrote: | | dude i'm almost 18 and ive been driving since i was 10, he might have a bit of experience |
I did my advanced driver training course in shepparton Vic. with your outburst I am assuming you have also done one just wondering where? |
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yakymoto
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| in my back yard in a mazda capella 1600 |
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gilesie
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Im not trying to argue the point but as a general rule at 16 there is usually very little driving experiance.
Now we all know that no experiance and powerful cars are a bad combination .
And I also expect that driving an old Mazda in a back yard is a little bit different to putting an F series ambo under full acceleration that is going sideways back into control.
And yes when I was 18 I thought I knew it all too.......... |
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you'd be surprised what you learn in a back yard, you go flat out constantly, and you do realise what a cars limits are, even if it's on dirt.
at least you can spin out without worrying that you'll hit someone else. |
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yakymoto
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| smoke_rubber wrote: | you'd be surprised what you learn in a back yard, you go flat out constantly, and you do realise what a cars limits are, even if it's on dirt.
at least you can spin out without worrying that you'll hit someone else. |
my point exactly |
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Jim
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Back to the point...
I'm running a 85' XF EFi X-Flow Leaded, she goes. and i've spent nothing much at all on her. Pod+custom intake <$150, what where ford thinking... "Now a good place to put the air box is on top of the extake manifold, and we can get cold air from behind the head light, and use a 1" pipe to get it to the air box" great work guys. Other then that a T5 $250, exhurst all the way, ie extractors(they are cheap for XF's, 20 bucks!), rest of the way 2 1/2" that was only $280. High fow lifters, $50. and a few other free mods, or removals if you like,  . So thats only $750, and she goes heaps better.
For $4K you'd get a new motor in there for sure. you just have to do it on the dodgy side. I've seen a XE 351, which wouldn't have cost anything to put in. It's the, 2nd hand turbo + upside down exhrust manifold + scrap big tube + MIG welder = Cheap + fast car, idea.
So that V8 you've got sitting in the shed runs, will go in, just like they go into XE's, all you need is the V8 engine mounts out of an xe, and a bit more XE stuff, and it's all kewl. Though i'm not sure about the laws down in VIC.
But with any car you can loose it, so why try and kill yourself in a datto when you could try in a falcon. |
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xcabbi
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Jim wrote: | Back to the point...
I'm running a 85' XF EFi X-Flow Leaded, she goes. and i've spent nothing much at all on her. Pod+custom intake <$150, what where ford thinking... "Now a good place to put the air box is on top of the extake manifold, and we can get cold air from behind the head light, and use a 1" pipe to get it to the air box" great work guys. Other then that a T5 $250, exhurst all the way, ie extractors(they are cheap for XF's, 20 bucks!), rest of the way 2 1/2" that was only $280. High fow lifters, $50. and a few other free mods, or removals if you like, . So thats only $750, and she goes heaps better.
For $4K you'd get a new motor in there for sure. you just have to do it on the dodgy side. I've seen a XE 351, which wouldn't have cost anything to put in. It's the, 2nd hand turbo + upside down exhrust manifold + scrap big tube + MIG welder = Cheap + fast car, idea.
So that V8 you've got sitting in the shed runs, will go in, just like they go into XE's, all you need is the V8 engine mounts out of an xe, and a bit more XE stuff, and it's all kewl. Though i'm not sure about the laws down in VIC.
But with any car you can loose it, so why try and kill yourself in a datto when you could try in a falcon. |
High flow lifters? Where do ya get them mate?
And the V8 engine swap. If only it was that easy. A clevo drop into an XF is much harer than you think. If it was a simple drop in then every second XF would have a clevo under the bonnet. |
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XRFan101
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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That and the fact if he got pulled over by the piggas he would get defected without a problem as XF's never came out with a v8 and unless you have a engineers certificate its never going to work. 
He's 16 thats the last thing he needs is to loose his first car
I would just spend the 3-4K doing up the six, it will have massive potensial with that much $$$$ put into it. 
I didnt have major mods done to my XF and it went like a rocket. Custom Exhaust, custom intake, Hi-flow filters, decent leads, plugs and dizzy. For about 9months it went like a dream  Until i blew the gear box doing burnouts |
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Jim
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Yeah, i've never really looked into the clevo swap over much my self, the new sixes suited me better. But i've heard it isn't so much of a big deal, like you can't change the plugs, and the engine mounts need a bit of fooling, but thats about it. I dunno, as i've said i've never looked into it. But i have seen it done, and it doesn't look that hard. Thats the only thing the cops would pick on him. but they pick on ppl with too loud exhurst, bald tyres, and such like. I'm not sure what its like down there, but i got a blue slip with a missing EGR valve, not that we knew it was missing then.
But yeah, i agree with that much money he'd have a quick X-flow. Though they don't like reving, but i have heard of people kitting them out and then they take them to 7. But yeah it's all up to the dude. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The X-flow will work very hard if a good amount of $$$$ is put into them, and will have a very strong rpm range |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Jim wrote: | | But yeah, i agree with that much money he'd have a quick X-flow. Though they don't like reving, but i have heard of people kitting them out and then they take them to 7. But yeah it's all up to the dude. |
they dont need to rev high because they have so much torque!
i reckon if you spend 3g or under youll have a wicked engine... those xfs are pretty light too... |
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| The XF engines you see that rev out to 7 grand are what I would like to call bushmans speedway specials. City slickers can afford big dollar V8's so they don't need them. I'd be happy If mine could hang together at 6 grand. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It wouldn't take that much to get the old X-flow upto 7. They go out to 5 and a bit stock, without any trouble. So with a few engine mods, like tougher valve springs, high end roller cam, roller rockers, high flow oil pump, high flow intake, mid sized holly, they'd be able to hit 7, i'm not saying it would be good for it, but i'm sure you'd hit it. |
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To get a 250 X flow to hang together at 7000rpm and make decent power while its up there would take more effort than you think.
Full roller valve train
Custom push rods
Longer and stronger rods and matching pistons
A radically ported head
And that's just for starters. |
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