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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:25 pm 
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How hard is it to get a ZF auto box behind a Windsor ? :!:

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:19 am 
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do you even no how much the box costs???
look into that first

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:34 am 
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regardless of cost, how hard would it be i was thinking the same thing, but behind a 351W.......

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:46 am 
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4dlvr, cost is not the issue here, the issue is can/has it been done & if so what were the dramas ? :roll: :D

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:14 pm 
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do a bit of a search, this topic has been covered a few times now.

the biggest hurdle is the electronics. the ZF has really complex electricals and are contained within the standard ecu, not in a separate controller. so this is the biggest hurdle to overcome.

there is talk of the box not fitting under the trans tunnel, but FTG Auto Salvage put a 6 speed box into a BA shell which had a 4 speed originally and it fit.

I'm unsure of bellhousings and so on though.

all in all, big project

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:29 pm 
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let me put it this way:

Anything is possible if you have James Packer's wallet.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:29 am 
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s-tranzor wrote:
let me put it this way:

Anything is possible if you have James Packer's wallet.
Jimmy Packers wallet eh ! Not bad S-tranzor !
Fitment isn't really an issue as I've got the space I reckon, I am more concerned about electronic issues. The physical job of making the 2 fit would be less of an issue to me than getting the thing to perform like it should. I'm not real bright when it comes to bits & bytes stuff

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:27 pm 
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nicco wrote:
do a bit of a search, this topic has been covered a few times now.

the biggest hurdle is the electronics. the ZF has really complex electricals and are contained within the standard ecu, not in a separate controller. so this is the biggest hurdle to overcome.

there is talk of the box not fitting under the trans tunnel, but FTG Auto Salvage put a 6 speed box into a BA shell which had a 4 speed originally and it fit.

I'm unsure of bellhousings and so on though.

all in all, big project

thanks nikko thats the sort of stuff/info that I'm after. 8-)
It begs the question then, that If I run a winsdor efi with a 5.4 ecu how do you reckon it'd go ? :shock: :!:

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:39 am 
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i doubt the 5.4 ecu would run on the windsor

what you could do

is drop the 5.4 AND 6spd into the car :)

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:42 am 
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The ZF actually has its own computer located in the box as well, this talks to the PCM (powertrain control module) and the BEM/BCM (Body electornics module).
The electronics will be the hardest bit as you are running a windsor it sounds like you may have to go for a seperate aftermarket trans controller or aftermarket ecu with controller inbuilt.

Best person to speak to would be Mal Wood up in Queensland - He does all gearboxes etc and may have some knowledge on how to get it working and he may be able to supply and adaptor bell housing/plate

 

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