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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:00 pm 
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Funny that when i ran an EL ecu in my EB1 and hadnt linked the trans to it yet...(still ran seperate auto comp) it lost power and used ALOT of fuel 300km to a tank as soon as i put the Auto onto the EL ECU the consumption went back to normal 500-600km and improved power.

Was not my imagination.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:12 pm 
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like i said, you need to know what your doing, ecu wise :)
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:29 pm 
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on my ed.i didnt have to trick the ecu at all.i just left it desconnected untile i was ready to start the car.the auto ecu learnt new things and been fine ever fine since i done the converstion.no ristores or tricks.just hook up speedo and nutral switch and revers light.all fine.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:44 pm 
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okay slightly of topic
will the EL auto ecu i ahve sitting here make any diffrence to the EB2 one thats in my EB2

(EL ecu is for up and coming BBM conversion)

oh and dose anyone know any good auto trans places south of the river?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:49 pm 
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i have been told that it increases your redline by 500rpm

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:54 pm 
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You will have gains in low to mid torque and you will feel it! its quite healthy! you will gain about 300rpm on rev cut out i think.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:56 pm 
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Dont worry i know what im doin! I had it running bloody awesome once i fully completed the conversion. Theres not much to get wrong... unless your stupid.

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like i said, you need to know what your doing, ecu wise :)


and about the EL ecu for improvements another thing you may gain some top end... but very little without the EL cam etc...

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:14 pm 
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No ones saying you're wrong.
ebfairmont3.9 wrote:
Funny that when i ran an EL ecu in my EB1 and hadnt linked the trans to it yet...(still ran seperate auto comp) it lost power and used ALOT of fuel 300km to a tank as soon as i put the Auto onto the EL ECU the consumption went back to normal 500-600km and improved power.Was not my imagination.
I remember we went through equating pinouts between the TCM and the corresponding EL ECU trans inputs.
In the first scenario, the EL ECU wouldn't be getting inhibitor switch position (PRND321) and trans temp ???
This sounds like LOS (covered in my last post) to me - timing reduced to 0deg, injectors fire with each PIP - hence lack of performance and high consumption.
This can be proved by checking with a timing light and revving the engine - the timing will be as like base timing, except you're not in base timing mode.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:44 pm 
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Yeah that would be correct! LOS.... LOS AND LHM lol either way it was p****d.

It was a pity i only got to enjoy that for 1 week. The conversion was no fun in the ED.....:( Run a BBM switch wire and fan signal wires. Cant remember if there was anythin else??.....Dnt think so. No fun!

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:28 pm 
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There is no difference in terms of fuel consumption with Auto and Manual ECU I drove around for 2 years with auto ECU it was by fluke my dad found a manual one for me.

The manual one is a bit smoother for changing gears I think it keeps idle up for a few seconds when clutch depresed.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:33 pm 
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hmm just wile i have all your attention

concidering i have an EL ecu is there any way that i chould hook up thermo fans and eliminate the need for a switch ect?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:38 pm 
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Assuming that its set up correctly yes. you just need to run the 2 Signal wires to the EL relay box i did this... its just next to the Airbox you can get 1 from a wrecker for bugger all thats what i did... But i linked the 2 signal wires together because i wanted them on High speed or not at all. low speed isnt enough and high speed doesnt come in till 104C and thats just Dumb, The fans come on at about 80C.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:54 pm 
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hmm allrighty ,
so i need an EL relay box
is that all for a bbm/thermo fan conversion?
how hard is it to wire up a relay box


cheeres all
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:03 pm 
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its really EASY..... You will have 2 Earths to connect. 1 to the battery and one to the body. and the 1 positive.. i think the signal wires are BLUE on the relay box will be 2 of those and one RED wire for Ignition ON. and the plugs for the fans should plug straight in. If i had my car here id go and have a look for ya :S going off memory..

 

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